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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hello Edoarda,</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Yes I just checked, editing works now,
thanks.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">About the images, good! I'm looking
forward to see your work :)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">About the message as Johnny explained,
I guess it is to make the activity more instructive.</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'm not sure, but maybe we can do
something like show a message warning the user to not do an action
in such case, <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">with some explanations, but still allow
to "force" the action and show the consequences. What do you
think?</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">At some point it could be useful to
create a task on our Phabricator page for new activities, to make
discussions easier :</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://phabricator.kde.org/project/view/142/">https://phabricator.kde.org/project/view/142/</a></div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Timothée<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 13/05/2019 à 22:16, Edoarda Vallim a
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<div>Hello, I gave you access to the document, is it working
now? <br>
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<div>I will add the part about the plant growing faster and
needing less water if it's close to a tree, I liked it a
lot!</div>
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<div>Also I don't mind if you need to edit the svgs, but I'll
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<div dir="auto">I just don't understand why I should show a
message when all trees are chopped down, I would like to
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 10, 2019, 16:55
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<div>Hello, I gave you access to the document, is it working
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<div>I will add the part about the plant growing faster and
needing less water if it's close to a tree, I liked it a
lot!</div>
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<div>Also I don't mind if you need to edit the svgs, but
I'll do my best to follow the guidelines as closely as
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em qui, 9 de mai de 2019
às 11:25, Timothée Giet <<a
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didn't know that she was also a designer and that it
was so important to her, ok.</div>
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that case, sure she can try to follow the guidelines
to create the images.<br>
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they are:</div>
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I can not promise I will not edit or change those
after she complete her project, before integrating the
activity in a release.</div>
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Timothée!</div>
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Edoarda's advisor! I saw that you prefer to do the
svg by yourself for the game. Is that really a
necessity? Edoarda is also a designer and she
decided to do this project for her final
graduation project because she could also draw
while programming. This is really important to
her! Do you think maybe you can pass this
guidelines to her and let her do the svg also?</div>
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2019 at 9:48 AM Timothée Giet <<a
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Thank you Edoarda for the updated proposal!<br>
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I like this new idea as it is simple enough but
still meaningful.<br>
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As Johnny asked, can you give us access to add
comments in the proposal<br>
document?<br>
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I propose to extend it a bit with this rule:<br>
-if a plantable area is next to a tree, plants
will require less manual<br>
watering and grow faster<br>
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Does it sound good for you?<br>
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Note that for the final graphics, we have now very
specific design<br>
guidelines so<br>
I prefer to make all the svg images to keep
consistent style and save<br>
time for everyone.<br>
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You can draw quickly simple placeholder images
similar to the mockup<br>
images,<br>
and I'll provide final images while you work on
the code.<br>
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Timothée<br>
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Le 07/05/2019 à 14:11, Johnny Jazeix a écrit :<br>
> Hi,<br>
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> Thank you for the proposal, can you give us
access to add comments in<br>
> the document?<br>
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> A few notes:<br>
> * what is the target age?<br>
> * the activity should not be made addictive,
so we should avoid too<br>
> much spots/space to plant trees.<br>
> * we should not allow to remove all trees,
there should be a message<br>
> when the child tries to remove at the limit
explaining why we can't<br>
> remove it<br>
> * same if we water too much a plant<br>
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> Johnny<br>
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> Le lun. 6 mai 2019 à 22:59, Edoarda Vallim
<<a href="mailto:edvallim@gmail.com"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">edvallim@gmail.com</a>>
a écrit :<br>
>> Hello, I made some modifications on my
proposal, the link is here:<br>
>> <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z5EkSlgzvERK-f4xlNLpUor6mUfWZkHpXtxqNMug_OA/edit?usp=sharing"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z5EkSlgzvERK-f4xlNLpUor6mUfWZkHpXtxqNMug_OA/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
>> Please tell me what you think and if it's
better.<br>
>> Thanks for your time!<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 17:42 Timothée Giet
<<a href="mailto:animtim@gmail.com"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">animtim@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>> Yes the goal is not to make a
complicated accurate simulation, we must find ways
to simplify things to just introduce the ideas.<br>
>>><br>
>>> If you want to select only part of
the items I listed, please keep the Agroforestry
part with the climate part. I'm sure we can find
simple activity combining those two principles.<br>
>>><br>
>>> And again, thanks for choosing to
contribute to GCompris for your project!<br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers,<br>
>>> Timothée - GCompris<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Le 08/04/2019 à 22:18, Edoarda Vallim
a écrit :<br>
>>><br>
>>> I like the ideas, however I think
some of them are very complicated to put in a game
for small children.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Maybe I can add something about the
climate now and let the other ideia as future
work?<br>
>>><br>
>>> I'm doing this as an undergraduate
project (I'm a computer science student) and I'm
adding my advisor to this conversation. :)<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 09:23 Timothée
Giet <<a href="mailto:animtim@gmail.com"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">animtim@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>>> Hi Edoarda,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thank you for the reply.<br>
>>>> About the ideas I have for this
activity, I didn't think yet of a specific
game-play, just about the concepts that should be
included, like:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> -learn to combine trees and
shrubs with crops or livestock. Show how they
interact with the soil at different levels and
show the effects of good or bad associations.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> -Include the effects on
Biodiversity.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> -Include natural elements
(interactions with rain and sun), and have several
levels representing the different climate
conditions in the world (and different plants for
each region).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> There are more ideas that could
be included, I just listed the most important ones
in my opinion.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I'm looking forward to your new
proposal :)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Timothée<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Le 05/04/2019 à 17:00, Edoarda
Vallim a écrit :<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Could you please tell me your
ideas? I'm planning on studying the topics you
sent me and create a new proposal soon.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Em qua, 3 de abr de 2019 às
16:34, Timothée Giet <<a
href="mailto:animtim@gmail.com" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">animtim@gmail.com</a>>
escreveu:<br>
>>>>> Le 03/04/2019 à 19:36,
Edoarda Vallim a écrit :<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Hello, my name is Edoarda. I
would like to make an activity for GCompris, if
it's okay!<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> The link to the proposal is
here: ttps://<a
href="http://docs.google.com/document/d/1_s9d_O8rCQ3vxc8w9nIa5vXK-LkN4Wdv0LKH5W8Vs3U/edit?usp=sharing"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">docs.google.com/document/d/1_s9d_O8rCQ3vxc8w9nIa5vXK-LkN4Wdv0LKH5W8Vs3U/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Thanks for your attention!<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Note: This activity is a
personal project, I don't intend entering on
SoC/GSoC with it. However, I would still like you
to aprove it, since I would like to see it
becoming a part of GCompris sometime.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Hello Edoarda,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Thanks for your interest to
contribute a new activity in GCompris.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I've read your proposal.
Actually we have been discussing recently about
the idea to add an activity to teach about
agriculture. But I would prefer to have something
teaching the principles of permaculture and
agroforestry (see <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture</a>
and <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agroforestry"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agroforestry</a>
), rather than something entirely based on
manually adding fertilizers and water like in your
proposal.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Can you please study a bit
those principles and try to adapt your activity
proposal to integrate those ideas? I have a global
idea of what could be done on that topic, so ask
me if you have any doubt.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Cheers,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Timothée<br>
>>>><br>
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