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<p>Dear all,</p>
<p>Re: GCompris request<br>
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<p>Would someone have the time and expertise to undertake the "sync
request" mentioned the email messages below please? Despite
Timo's and Johnny's excellent help (including some step-by-step
instructions as mentioned below), this task is beyond a novice
like me. <br>
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<p>Completing this task could also have a flow-through benefit for
the next LTS version of Ubuntu and its derivatives (including
Edubuntu) - a better version of GCompris Gtk+ .<br>
</p>
<p>Thanks and regards<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-forward-container">Robert.<br>
<br>
PS. I note that gcompris-qt would also be in prospect for the
next LTS Ubuntu.<br>
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<td>Re: Gcompris for Yaketty Yak and later editions of
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<td>Tue, 4 Oct 2016 21:35:33 +0200</td>
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<td>Johnny Jazeix <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:johnny.jazeix@gcompris.net"><johnny.jazeix@gcompris.net></a></td>
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<td>Robert Osmond <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:robert_osmond@bigpond.com"><robert_osmond@bigpond.com></a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:support@gcompris.net">support@gcompris.net</a></td>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
<br>
I'm neither a ubuntu nor debian user so I don't know much about
the process.<br>
<br>
What I found that could help you:
debian/patches/e93dccbd43217*.patch should already be in the
15.10 release (it has been done in the master in March so before
the release:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://github.com/gcompris/GCompris-gtk/commit/e93dccbd43217e3c47547033354d1a11db759974">https://github.com/gcompris/GCompris-gtk/commit/e93dccbd43217e3c47547033354d1a11db759974</a>).
We are in the case: "applied by upstream".<br>
So for me, there is no reason to have it anymore.<br>
<br>
Then, you are in this process:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess#For_people_requiring_sponsorship">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess#For_people_requiring_sponsorship</a><br>
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<ul>
<li>Source package name -> gcompris<span class="anchor"
id="line-42"></span></li>
<li>Source package version number to sync <span
class="anchor" id="line-43"></span>-> 15.10-1</li>
<li>Where to sync from (e.g. 'Debian sid main', 'Debian
experimental non-free') -> debian sid unstable<span
class="anchor" id="line-44"></span></li>
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However, looking at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gcompris">https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gcompris</a>,
there are the data, dbg and all the sound packages. I don't know
if we need to create a bug for each of them?<br>
<br>
On the page it is written: <br>
<p class="line862">There's a tool that automates the
bureaucratic part of the sync request process, <strong>requestsync</strong>
in the <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="https"
href="https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-dev-tools">ubuntu-dev-tools</a>
package. <span class="anchor" id="line-65"></span><span
class="anchor" id="line-66"></span></p>
Maybe it can help you?<br>
<br>
What you can also do is to ask in the devel list of gcompris (<a
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:gcompris-devel@kde.org">gcompris-devel@kde.org</a>),
maybe someone has the knowlegde/time to look at it?<br>
<br>
Johnny<br>
<br>
On 10/04/16 14:42, Robert Osmond wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Johnny and others,</p>
<p>Please see immediately below for a further message from Timo
Jyrinki (who is also a kind contributor to the Ubuntu
Community). You may have received it already via Bruno
Coudin (cc below). <b>Please consider Timo's suggestions,
which are addressed to me but unfortunately are far too
technical for me to follow with confidence. </b> Timo's
suggestions relate to getting the latest "Debian version" of
GCompris (likely GCompris-15.10 Gtk+) "synced" for inclusion
in Ubuntu. Further instructions for completing the suggested
Sync Request are linked below - including information on the
Ubuntu wiki about obtaining a necessary Feature Freeze
Exception to allow late inclusion of the "Debian version" of
GCompris in the Universe repo of the forthcoming Ubuntu OS.
Timo also mentions a possible complication involving a patch
that may need to be pushed - but unfortunately I don't
understand that either.</p>
<p> I recognise that all your efforts are being directed towards
GCompris-qt, and therefore the suggestions below may be an
unwelcome distraction. <br>
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<p>Thank you for your time.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Robert.</p>
<p>PS. GCompris-15-10 Gtk+ runs very nicely in Chapeau-24 OS
(including the 'water cycle' activity that has a bug in
GCompris-15.02 in Ubuntu). Great!<br>
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<td>Re: Will the superseded "gcompris 15.02-1.1ubuntu1"
be erroneously included in the repo for Ubuntu Yaketty
Yak 16.10? (I hope that gcompris 15.10-1 will be
pulled-in from Debian instead, but the second Beta for
Yaketty Yak still pulls-in 15.02-1.1!)</td>
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<td>Mon, 3 Oct 2016 10:37:20 +0300</td>
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<td>Timo Jyrinki <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="mailto:timo.jyrinki@canonical.com"><timo.jyrinki@canonical.com></a></td>
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<td>Robert Osmond <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="mailto:robert_osmond@bigpond.com"><robert_osmond@bigpond.com></a></td>
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<td><a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:bruno.coudoin@gcompris.net">bruno.coudoin@gcompris.net</a></td>
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<div>Hi Robert,<br>
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Thanks for your e-mail. GCompris is in the 'universe'
repository, making it a community maintained package.
My upload in March was also on my free time and not
work time, and I don't currently plan to spend more
time with GCompris as I was mostly interested in
GStreamer 1.0 transition back then which required that
upload.<br>
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I believe the correct bug to file at the moment would be
a sync request to get the latest Debian version
included: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess</a><br>
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<div>If wanted to 16.10 still, it would also need to be
Feature Freeze Exception request since we're almost in
final release freeze now, so there's very little time.<br>
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<div><br>
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There is still one patch in Ubuntu
(debian/patches/e93dccbd43217*.patch) that apparently
should be either pushed towards Debian via a bug report or
just continue to be included as Ubuntu changes. Or maybe
it's something that could be or has been applied
upstream... it would be optimal if the Ubuntu delta could
be dropped, since in that case updates from Debian would
appear automatically instead of these manual syncs and
sync requests.<br>
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-Timo<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 4:05 AM,
Robert Osmond <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:robert_osmond@bigpond.com"
target="_blank">robert_osmond@bigpond.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Timo</p>
<p>I hope you are well. No doubt you are very busy
preparing for the forthcoming Ubuntu 16.10 'Yaketty
Yak'.</p>
<p>I wish to draw your attention (in an informal way)
to a potential shortcoming in the forthcoming
version of Ubuntu, based on my testing of 'beta2'.
I had hoped that Ubuntu 16.10 would include a <i>new</i>
version of GCompris - specifically, the GCompris
15.10-1 now seen in both Debian 'stretch' (testing)
and 'sid' (unstable) -- but, unfortunately, my
testing of development release Ubuntu 16.10-beta2
shows that the previous<b> gcompris 15.02-1.1ubuntu1</b>
still appears in the repo. Would it be possible to
expedite (before 'feature freeze') the inclusion of
GCompris 15.10-1 in the repo for the forthcoming
distribution release Ubuntu 16.10 (Yaketty Yak)
please?</p>
<p><i>If not</i>, would it be possible to allocate my
earlier bug report for attention of one of your
developers please?:<br>
</p>
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class="m_4226727360820948030moz-forward-container"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4226727360820948030moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcompris/+bug/1566813"
target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/<wbr>ubuntu/+source/gcompris/+bug/<wbr>1566813</a><br>
<br>
As you would know, compiling a new version of
GCompris is not an attractive option for ordinary
users due to GCompris' many external dependencies.<br>
<br>
Thank you<br>
Robert.<br>
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<td>[ubuntu/xenial-proposed] gcompris
15.02-1.1ubuntu1 -- bug report #1566813</td>
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<td>Robert Osmond <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4226727360820948030moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:robert_osmond@bigpond.com"
target="_blank"><robert_osmond@bigpond.com></a></td>
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<td>Timo Jyrinki <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4226727360820948030moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:timo.jyrinki@canonical.com"
target="_blank"><timo.jyrinki@canonical.com></a></td>
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<td><a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4226727360820948030moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:hdegoede@redhat.com"
target="_blank">hdegoede@redhat.com</a>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4226727360820948030moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:bruno.coudoin@gcompris.net"
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Many thanks Timo.<br>
<br>
Following your guidance and excellent directions,
I've now submitted a separate 'ubuntu-bug' report
(Bug # 1566813) using the correct tools (via Apport
and Launchpad). I hope that my report will give you
(or the assigned developer) the information you need
to fix the bug. By the way, the bug description in
my bug report is very similar to the bug description
submitted to <u>Red Hat</u> by 'Rolle' in 2013, <u>quote</u>:<br>
<br>
Description of problem: in gcompris the water cycle
(and maybe other sub games too) doesn't recognize
all possible stations to click. [Robert Osmond: That
is, the active graphical elements are generally not
active.] It isn't possible to finish the water
cycle.<br>
<br>
Version-Release number of selected component (if
applicable): [<i>Robert Osmond: the bug is present
in GCompris v.15.02 on <u>Ubuntu/Xenial 16.04
beta </u>(XFCE desktop), and - by the way - is
also still present to a varying degree in GCompris
v.13.11 on Ubuntu/Trusty 14.04 (Cinnamon desktop),
and possibly others</i>. More specifically, while
the bug also affects the <span
class="m_4226727360820948030bz_comment_time">neighboring
experimental activity </span><span
class="m_4226727360820948030bz_comment_time">"Learn
about an electrical system based on renewable
energy" within GCompris v.13.11 on Ubuntu/Trusty
14.04</span> , the bug does <u>not</u> affect
that neighboring activity within GCompris v15.02 on
Ubuntu/Xenial 16.04 beta.]<br>
<br>
How reproducible: always <br>
<br>
<b>Steps to Reproduce: </b><b><br>
</b><b>1. start gcompris</b><b><br>
</b><b>2. go in the third category (on the left
side) to the physical experiments</b><b><br>
</b><b>3. start the 3rd SubGame (water cycle)</b><b><br>
</b><b>4. click the sun, afterwards the clouds, and
so on</b><b><br>
</b><b>5. the power plant on water to generate
electricity doesn't react -> so the water cycle
isn't possible to fulfill</b><b><br>
</b><b>6. sometimes [in fact always on Ubuntu/Xenial
16.04 beta] the sun isn't even clickable [further,
the description of the water tower is always shown
- irrespective of which graphical element of the
water cycle is selected </b><b><b>in GCompris
v.15.02</b>] </b><br>
<br>
<b>Actual results: sometimes the sun and always the
power plant to generate electricity isn't
clickable</b><b><br>
</b><b><br>
</b><b>Expected results: all stations on water cycle
must be clickable to fulfill the task </b><br>
<br>
<u>Unquote</u>.<br>
<br>
Here's a link to Rolle's (now closed) bug report
(#1034132) submitted to Red Hat. The closed report
is followed by comments from <span
class="m_4226727360820948030bz_comment_user"><span
class="m_4226727360820948030vcard
m_4226727360820948030redhat_user"><span
class="m_4226727360820948030fn">Hans de Goede</span>
</span> </span> <span
class="m_4226727360820948030bz_comment_time"> on
2013-11-26 </span>regarding the bug-affected
neighboring activity and the difficulty of the bug
fix:<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_4226727360820948030moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1034132"
target="_blank">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/<wbr>show_bug.cgi?id=1034132</a><br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Robert.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div class="m_4226727360820948030moz-cite-prefix">On
6/04/2016 5:32 PM, Timo Jyrinki wrote:<br>
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<pre>Thank you Robert for your kind e-mail.
On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 3:48 PM, Robert Osmond <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4226727360820948030moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:robert_osmond@bigpond.com" target="_blank"><robert_osmond@bigpond.com></a> wrote:
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<pre>Firstly, thank you for proposing/accepting a less-outdated version of
GCompris for Ubuntu/Xenial 16.04 (as mentioned here,
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4226727360820948030moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xenial-changes/2016-March/008247.html" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/<wbr>archives/xenial-changes/2016-<wbr>March/008247.html</a>).
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<pre>The version was actually already there, my upload was about enabling
GStreamer 1.0+ support to drop the old GStreamer 0.10 from stock
Edubuntu images among else.
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<pre>However, if it's not already too late to change, may I suggest that you pull
in an even fresher version of GCompris. In this regard, the clever folks at
Red Hat have pulled in the fresh 15.10 version of GCompris, which was
released "upstream" last October, and made it ready for Fedora 24.
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<pre>Unfortunately Ubuntu release schedule
(<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4226727360820948030moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/<wbr>XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule</a>) is such that
Feature Freeze for new versions was already in February, and we are
very near final lockdown.
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<pre>other improvements, the latest version (as polished by Red Hat) is now
reported to be free of the longstanding bug that afflicted the GCompris
activity "Learn about the water supply" - which is found under "Experimental
activities" in the menu.
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<pre>Could you file a separate bug about this issue at
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4226727360820948030moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcompris/" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/<wbr>ubuntu/+source/gcompris/</a> ?
Bug fixes are allowed even after the release, so it would be possible
to try to see if the fix for this bug could be picked on top of the
current 15.02 release.
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<pre>Note the strong desirability of making
gstreamer-plugins-base into a required dependency in order to prevent a loss
of audio in some usage scenarios
</pre>
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<pre>GStreamer dependency will certainly stay, we just switched from 0.10
to newer version.
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<pre>PS. Sorry that I've not used the Ubuntu bug reporting tools, but I will
learn how to.
</pre>
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<pre>Good luck! :) <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_4226727360820948030moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/<wbr>community/ReportingBugs</a> should
have answers to most questions if any occur. Let's continue the
discussion in that bug report as needed.
Best Regards,
Timo Jyrinki
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