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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
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      On 10/02/16 18:00, Horia PELLE wrote:<br>
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          <div>Hello,</div>
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          <div>In my opinion, the programming effort wouldn’t be huge:
            it would only suppose an extra button/control to open an
            existing clip or not. This extra button could be set to have
            a boolean behavior, i.e., to appear or not, depending if the
            clip exists (is defined) or not. The children would
            certainly love any extra information presented in a video
            clip, and the retention of that word would certainly be
            better.</div>
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          <div>Selecting/trimming 564 clips in national languages of the
            countries that don’t have a developed film industry – yes –
            that would certainly be a difficult task. However, I believe
            that the users from these countries would be more interested
            in the english-french-german-spanish lang activities than in
            their mother tongue lang activity. Besides, if the
            implementation would be “boolean”, there won’t be any
            frustration: a clip either exists and then there is an extra
            button, or it doesn’t exist, in which case there isn’t any
            extra button.</div>
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          <div>About the age pool you have mentioned, it depends very
            much of the parent and the kid: some would prefer
            animations, others (like my son) would go for the Hollywood
            celebrities’ acting. This is why it would be very useful to
            give the user the possibility to customize the clip.</div>
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    For me, we shouldn't let the user choose which clip it should look
    at. There was a discussion about allowing external links in GCompris
    a few times ago (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/gcompris-devel/2016-February/004529.html"
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href="https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/gcompris-devel/2016-February/004535.html"
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    and following ones). We could think of doing like we do for the
    voices, download an external dataset containing all the videos.<br>
    Doing like this, we won't have any issue with the potential
    disappearing links and we can embed free licensed videos (the main
    issue being to find/create them).<br>
    For the programming effort, I don't know if Qt provides a media
    player (there is phonon or QtMultimedia but I don't know if it is
    enough) and if there is a format that could be played everywhere
    without codecs or if the format will depend on the OS (like for
    audio).<br>
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          <div>I am not informed about copyrights, but I know that a
            videoclip wouldn’t exceed more than 30 seconds, so couldn’t
            it be possible to just obtain the copyright for free,
            eventually mentioning in a watermark the title, the year and
            the owning company? I mean come on, there is a good chance
            that some of these movies would be bought in the future by
            some of the users, isn’t it?</div>
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    A solution would be to not use existing part of movies but
    finding/creating ones with the good license. But, if we go this way,
    I'm not sure we'll have enough people to provide us the necessary
    resources.<br>
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          <div>All in all, I still believe that my idea is viable. I
            hope I’m not the only one... <img
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    The idea for sure is interesting but the issues are more with the
    lack of resources and with the licenses as said by Emmanuel and
    Bruno.<br>
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    Johnny<br>
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          <div>Horia</div>
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                <div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
                    moz-do-not-send="true" title="echarruau@gmail.com"
                    href="mailto:echarruau@gmail.com">Emmanuel Charruau</a>
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                <div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 02 October, 2016 15:32</div>
                <div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    title="horricane@gmail.com"
                    href="mailto:horricane@gmail.com">Horia PELLE</a> ;
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    title="gcompris-devel@kde.org"
                    href="mailto:gcompris-devel@kde.org">GCompris Devel</a>
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                <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: lang activity proposition</div>
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                          <div>Hi,<br>
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                        Is this not a too huge task? <br>
                        GCompris is translated in many languages, I
                        doubt that this idea if implemented in english
                        will be maintained in an other language.<br>
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                      Then we have to think that this is for children
                      from 2 to 10, we would have to find the words in
                      kids animation movies mostly, which norrows the
                      source of vocables.<br>
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                    Then there is this copyright problem. If we solve it
                    with links, who would do the tests to see if the
                    links are still relevant?<br>
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                  This is a really huge quantity of situation to solve
                  for only one activity :( and we have little ressources
                  :(<br>
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                But this is just my opinion :)<br>
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              Emmanuel<br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">2016-10-02 13:46 GMT+02:00 Horia
                PELLE <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:horricane@gmail.com" target="_blank">horricane@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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                        <div>I have a proposition for the lang activity.
                          Although this activity is complex, very
                          instructive and useful for vocabulary and
                          writing purposes, I think it misses the
                          liveliness of normal/everyday human language.
                          The reason for this inert/still feature is the
                          “atomization” of language in 564 small basic
                          words. They can be learnt individually, but in
                          this case they will only remain 564 pieces of
                          a puzzle, with little value in real life
                          communication. In my opinion, all these 564
                          small blocks of language would exponentially
                          increase their learning value if they could be
                          individually exemplified with everyday human
                          speech.</div>
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                        <div>My idea is to place a button/link near each
                          word image, and when it is clicked, it would
                          open a popup window with an external video
                          clip in which one (or more) persons say a
                          phrase containing that word. Ideally, that
                          phrase should be a clip from a good movie, so
                          that pronunciation and emotion could reach
                          maximum levels.</div>
                        <div>In this way, the kids would learn two
                          things: (1) to use all those 564 small pieces
                          of language in real verbal communication and
                          (2) the emotional intelligence of human
                          speech, which is a big lack in most
                          computer-assisted learning programs.</div>
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                        <div>I began to test short video clips a long
                          time ago, on my little boy, and they all
                          proved very successful (he easily remembers
                          them, and he likes to recite/interprete these
                          clips very often). I provided here four
                          examples, for the words <a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="https://youtu.be/fYJA26EjPEg"
                            target="_blank">coin</a> (<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://youtu.be/fYJA26EjPEg"
                            target="_blank">youtu.be/fYJA26EjPEg</a>), <a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="https://youtu.be/CCOSZxD7gtI"
                            target="_blank">cute</a> (<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://youtu.be/CCOSZxD7gtI"
                            target="_blank">youtu.be/CCOSZxD7gtI</a>), <a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="https://youtu.be/4PjHe2xPwa8"
                            target="_blank">dog</a> (<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://youtu.be/4PjHe2xPwa8"
                            target="_blank">youtu.be/4PjHe2xPwa8</a>)
                          and <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="https://youtu.be/bfV3oGZozkY"
                            target="_blank">huge</a> (<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://youtu.be/bfV3oGZozkY"
                            target="_blank">youtu.be/bfV3oGZozkY</a>) →
                          please take a look at them. Maybe they aren't
                          the best examples or format, but you can feel
                          the fluent everyday language and the broad
                          spectrum of human emotions + body language of
                          these short clips.</div>
                        <div> </div>
                        <div>Of course, the copyrights would certainly
                          raise serious concerns, but if this problem
                          could not be solved by GCompris team, then it
                          could be easily overcome by the individual
                          user. What I mean is that GCompris could
                          provide by default a link of a clip without
                          copyright problems, but the user could be
                          given permission to customize the link and
                          place his/her own link, with the preferred
                          video clip.</div>
                        <div> </div>
                        <div>What do you think?</div>
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