<html><head><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">This week I had some time to take another look at FreeNX on Trusty.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">The gnome flashback situation seems worse.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">But, just discovered that mate desktop is working ok.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">The only problem is that resizing nx client don’t resize the desktop.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">http://mate-desktop.org</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://packages.mate-desktop.org/repo/ubuntu saucy main”</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">sudo apt-get install mate-core</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">Custom command "mate-session” as a new virtual desktop.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">For now it’s the winner for me.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div> <div id="bloop_sign_1394043812726419968" class="bloop_sign">Em 21 de fevereiro de 2014 at 08:45:37 PM, Ryan Tandy (<a href="mailto:rtandy@sd63.bc.ca">rtandy@sd63.bc.ca</a>) escreveu:<span style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px"></span></div> <div><div><blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span><div><div>This afternoon I've briefly tried freenx under trusty, and generally<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>reproduced your results.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Of course unity doesn't work, because of no composite under FreeNX. I<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>guess there's no way to get it to use software rendering, like a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>physical system without working 3D does? I suppose that still depends on<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>composite support from the X server... and anyway, from what I've heard<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>from VirtualBox users it's not really usable.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div></div></span></blockquote></div><p>3D for FreeNX is not an option. It’s a fork of Xorg 6.99.??!!!</p><p>It’s ancient.</p><div><div><blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span><div><div><br>On 14-02-21 04:49 AM, Marcelo Boveto Shima wrote:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Right now gnome-fallback doesn’t work on trusty because of a requirement<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> test.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> I removed the test and it started. I will try to figure out will they<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> are requiring<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> composite for the fallback. Maybe because they rely on compiz/unity for<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> background.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/gnome-session/trusty/view/head:/gnome-session/main.c#L299<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>I think it's there because of gnome-shell, since fallback isn't<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>supported upstream any more. A conditional hack to skip it for certain<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>sessions might be OK. A real solution would be for the session file to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>indicate whether or not acceleration is required but I doubt upstream<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>will be interested in that.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div></div></span></blockquote></div><p><span style="font-family: Helvetica;">Fallback was never a Gnome feature, it was a debian/ubuntu hack.</span></p><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica;">Only last year they introduced the FlashBack project but isn’t upstream either,.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica;">https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-flashback-list/2013-September/msg00006.html</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica;">For reference:</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica;">https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=730495</div><p><span style="font-family: Helvetica;">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1251281</span></p><p><font face="Helvetica">Maybe they are </font><span style="font-family: Helvetica;">interested.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: Helvetica;">https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeFlashback.</span></p><div><div><blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span><div><div><br><br>On the freenx-server Depends, I suggest removing "gnome-session" (now it<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>implies a gnome-shell session), and changing "gnome-session-fallback" to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>"gnome-session-flashback" (following upstream's rename).<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>What does freenx-server use consolekit for, if it's installed? Is it<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>feasible to update it to use the systemd interfaces instead? Even though<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>consolekit is still in the archive I don't really expect to do anything<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>useful today for a GNOME (even fallback) or Unity session.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div></div></span></blockquote></div><p><span style="font-family: Helvetica;">At that time, I’ve made a script to set the ConsoleKit session as local to allow</span></p><p><span style="font-family: Helvetica;">PolicyKit to work with remote sessions (freenx-session-launcher).</span></p><p><span style="font-family: Helvetica;">Removed.</span></p><div><div><blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span><div><div><br>I can't put much time into this, but I'll play with it from time to time<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>when I can.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div></div></span></blockquote></div><p>Me neither.</p><div><blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span><div><div><br><br>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Ryan Tandy - Programmer/Analyst rtandy@sd63.bc.ca<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>School District 63 (Saanich) +1 250 652 7385<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br><div>- signature.asc, 567 bytes</div>________________________________________________________________<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Were you helped on this list with your FreeNX problem?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Then please write up the solution in the FreeNX Wiki/FAQ:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>http://openfacts2.berlios.de/wikien/index.php/BerliosProject:FreeNX_-_FAQ<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Don't forget to check the NX Knowledge Base:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>http://www.nomachine.com/kb/<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>________________________________________________________________<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>FreeNX-kNX mailing list --- FreeNX-kNX@kde.org<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>________________________________________________________________</div></div></span></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div><p><br></p><p>Regards.</p><div id="bloop_sign_1394043812726419968" class="bloop_sign">-- <br>Marcelo Boveto Shima<br></div><p><br></p><div></div></body></html>