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Hi Marcelo,<br>
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Are you interested to develop a new freenx ?<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">In my opinion, freenx should be replaced
with something new with systemd or lightdm integration.</blockquote>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
<br>
Jean Milot<br>
<br>
Le 05/07/2012 18:58, Marcelo Boveto Shima a écrit :
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<p style="color: #A0A0A8;">On Thursday, 5 de July de 2012 at
11:13, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:chris@ccburton.com">chris@ccburton.com</a> wrote:</p>
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<tt><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:freenx-knx-bounces@kde.org">freenx-knx-bounces@kde.org</a>
wrote on 05/07/2012 12:16:32:</font><br>
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> Zitat von <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:chris@ccburton.com:">chris@ccburton.com:</a></font><br>
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> </font><br>
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> > I doubt anyone is intersted anymore, but
just in case</font><br>
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> > here's a re-patch to allow shadowing of
console sessions.</font><br>
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> ></font><br>
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> > Note this applies to ubuntu FreeNX and its
derivatives.</font><br>
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> ></font><br>
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> > Fedora, Centos & Suse haven't included
the patch mentioned.</font><br>
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> ></font><br>
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> </font><br>
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> Hi Chris,</font><br>
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> </font><br>
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> would it not make more sense to fork the github
repo from fabianx</font><br>
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> and put the patch there in a branch?</font><br>
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<div>I don't think it's a good idea. There are too many patches.</div>
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<tt><font size="2">Hiya Henning</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">Good question there are a few patches
around for</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">various features . . .</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">There are a few points to take into
consideration
tho . . . . </font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">The original developer(s) ha[s|ve]
vanished</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2"> (probably to get
a job/life).</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">They are the only people who proprtly
knwe how it
all worked</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">(and they will have forgotten now)</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">The Ubuntu people seem to have done quite
a bit of
work, but they</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">have gone of on their own way.</font></tt>
<br>
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<div>I am the main Ubuntu freenx maintainer.</div>
<div>Freenx is in maintain mode only, but once in a while I
incorporate some patches from the list.</div>
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<div><tt><font size="2"> pushing out
their own patches on their own</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2"> introducing different
coding styles</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2"> they seem to have
added a lot of logging, but</font></tt>
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<div>The <span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469);">logging changes was made by Boris from altlinux.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469);">I forked his repo after he forked mine. </span></div>
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<div><tt><font size="2">I don't know why.</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2"> changing their
installation location to match nomachine's</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2"> not doing any
documentation</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">and</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2"> now they seem
to have stopped too . . .</font></tt>
<br>
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<div>The documentation is the git log.</div>
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<div>The installation location does not match nomachine one.</div>
<div>Freenx is installed on /usr/lib/freenx-server or something
like that.</div>
<div>This was necessary for the process to include on official
repo.</div>
<div>But as nx itself is a xorg fork they didn't accepted.</div>
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<br>
<tt><font size="2">Suse have dumped theirs onto
"community",
so anyone can</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">release an rpm.</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">The Redhat people (whoever they are)</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2"> may a few
patchesfrom ubuntu but not all,</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">but</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2"> haven't
followed ubuntuin changing the</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">installtion location.</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">So FreeNX is effectively multiply
forked anyway.</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">Also</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">Nomachine are not releasing the next
version of their</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">NXagent etc to open source, so any/all
Open-Source
NX</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">projects may well be in their final
stages.</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
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<div>Probably freenx will be maintained in fix only for some
years. </div>
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<tt><font size="2">There are a number (rather too many) of
other projects</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">also using nomachines libraries, some
of which threaten</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">to replace FreeNX as the most used (if
not already)</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">There is no complete user documentation
of FreeNX</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">so no-one (including me) seems to know
just exactly</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">what all the features are.</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2"> ** big job No
1 **</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">There is no documentation of the code,
even within</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">the code its-self it is patchy.</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">It will all need to be taken to bits
and worked</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">through.</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2"> ** big job No
2 **</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">The code hasn't kept up with
nomachine's client.</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">look at the way</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2"> ENABLE_SHOW_RUNNING_SESSIONS</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2"> ENABLE_AUTORECONNECT</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">interact</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">A lot of the code needs "reviewing"
which
means</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">lots of testing of every feature will
need to be</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">done</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">VNC, XDM,windows, smb shares, smb/cups
printing</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2"> ** big job No
3 **</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">If you get that far, then packages need
to be</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">produced and re-tested for the various
distros.</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2"> ** big job No
4 **</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">Then designers approvers and accepters
are</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">needed with someone(s) in charge to
appoint</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">etc</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2"> ** big job No
5 **</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">Then the appropriate web presence is
needed</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2"> ** big job No
6 **</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">... all possibly just in time for the
end of</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">support for nxagent/libraries.</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">If there was a large user base with a
sponsor</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">and a fre volunteers then it might be
do-able.</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">I didn't see much enthusiasm last time
it</font></tt>
<br>
<tt><font size="2">was proposed tho . . . </font></tt>
<br>
<br>
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<div>In my opinion, freenx should be replaced with something new
with systemd or lightdm integration.</div>
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); ">Regards.</span></div>
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span"
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<tt><font size="2">> <br>
> Bye Henning<br>
> <br>
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