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    Hi Marcelo,<br>
    <br>
    Are you interested to develop a new freenx ?<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite">In my opinion, freenx should be replaced
      with something new with systemd or lightdm integration.</blockquote>
    <br>
    Sincerely,<br>
    <br>
    Jean Milot<br>
    <br>
    Le 05/07/2012 18:58, Marcelo Boveto Shima a écrit :
    <blockquote cite="mid:E39ABE40B3D54352937DBB97795049DD@localhost"
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      <p style="color: #A0A0A8;">On Thursday, 5 de July de 2012 at
        11:13, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:chris@ccburton.com">chris@ccburton.com</a> wrote:</p>
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              <br>
              <tt><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:freenx-knx-bounces@kde.org">freenx-knx-bounces@kde.org</a>
                  wrote on 05/07/2012 12:16:32:</font><br>
                <br>
                <font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">
                  > Zitat von <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:chris@ccburton.com:">chris@ccburton.com:</a></font><br>
                <font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">
                  > </font><br>
                <font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">
                  > > I doubt anyone is intersted anymore, but
                  just in case</font><br>
                <font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">
                  > > here's a re-patch to allow shadowing of
                  console sessions.</font><br>
                <font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">
                  > ></font><br>
                <font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">
                  > > Note this applies to ubuntu FreeNX and its
                  derivatives.</font><br>
                <font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">
                  > ></font><br>
                <font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">
                  > > Fedora, Centos & Suse haven't included
                  the patch mentioned.</font><br>
                <font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">
                  > ></font><br>
                <font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">
                  > </font><br>
                <font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">
                  > Hi Chris,</font><br>
                <font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">
                  > </font><br>
                <font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">
                  > would it not make more sense to fork the github
                  repo from fabianx</font><br>
                <font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">
                  > and put the patch there in a branch?</font><br>
                <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><br>
                </font></tt></div>
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      <div>I don't think it's a good idea. There are too many patches.</div>
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            <br>
            <tt><font size="2">Hiya Henning</font></tt>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <tt><font size="2">Good question there are a few patches
                around for</font></tt>
            <br>
            <tt><font size="2">various features . . .</font></tt>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <tt><font size="2">There are a few points to take into
                consideration
                tho . . . . </font></tt>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <tt><font size="2">The original developer(s) ha[s|ve]
                vanished</font></tt>
            <br>
            <tt><font size="2">        (probably to get
                a job/life).</font></tt>
            <br>
            <br>
            <tt><font size="2">They are the only people who proprtly
                knwe how it
                all worked</font></tt>
            <br>
            <tt><font size="2">(and they will have forgotten now)</font></tt>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <tt><font size="2">The Ubuntu people seem to have done quite
                a bit of
                work, but they</font></tt>
            <br>
            <tt><font size="2">have gone of on their own way.</font></tt>
            <br>
            <br>
          </div>
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      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>I am the main Ubuntu freenx maintainer.</div>
      <div>Freenx is in maintain mode only, but once in a while I
        incorporate some patches from the list.</div>
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          0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
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style="border-left-style:solid;border-width:1px;margin-left:0px;padding-left:10px;">
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          <div><tt><font size="2">        pushing out  
                     their own patches on their own</font></tt>
            <br>
            <tt><font size="2">        introducing different
                coding styles</font></tt>
            <br>
            <tt><font size="2">        they seem to have
                added a lot of logging, but</font></tt>
            <br>
          </div>
        </div>
      </blockquote>
      <div>The <span class="Apple-style-span"
          style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
          0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
          0.230469);">logging changes was made by Boris from altlinux.</span></div>
      <div><span class="Apple-style-span"
          style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
          0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
          0.230469);">I forked his repo after he forked mine. </span></div>
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style="border-left-style:solid;border-width:1px;margin-left:0px;padding-left:10px;">
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          <div><tt><font size="2">I don't know why.</font></tt>
            <br>
            <tt><font size="2">        changing their
                installation location to match nomachine's</font></tt>
            <br>
            <tt><font size="2">        not doing any
                documentation</font></tt>
            <br>
            <tt><font size="2">and</font></tt>
            <br>
            <tt><font size="2">        now they seem
                to have stopped too . . .</font></tt>
            <br>
            <br>
          </div>
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        0.230469); ">
        <div>The documentation is the git log.</div>
        <div> </div>
      </span>
      <div>The installation location does not match nomachine one.</div>
      <div>Freenx is installed on /usr/lib/freenx-server or something
        like that.</div>
      <div>This was necessary for the process to include on official
        repo.</div>
      <div>But as nx itself is a xorg fork they didn't accepted.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
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          <div id="quoted-message-content">
            <div>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">Suse have dumped theirs onto
                  "community",
                  so anyone can</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">release an rpm.</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">The Redhat people (whoever they are)</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">         may a few
                  patchesfrom ubuntu but not all,</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">but</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">         haven't
                  followed ubuntuin changing the</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">installtion location.</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">So FreeNX is effectively multiply
                  forked anyway.</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">Also</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">Nomachine are not releasing the next
                  version of their</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">NXagent etc to open source, so any/all
                  Open-Source
                  NX</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">projects may well be in their final
                  stages.</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </blockquote>
      <div>Probably freenx will be maintained in fix only for some
        years.  </div>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <div>
          <div id="quoted-message-content">
            <div>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">There are a number (rather too many) of
                  other projects</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">also using nomachines libraries, some
                  of which threaten</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">to replace FreeNX as the most used (if
                  not already)</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">There is no complete user documentation
                  of FreeNX</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">so no-one (including me) seems to know
                  just exactly</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">what all the features are.</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">        ** big job No
                  1 **</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">There is no documentation of the code,
                  even within</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">the code its-self it is patchy.</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">It will all need to be taken to bits
                  and worked</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">through.</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">        ** big job No
                  2 **</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">The code hasn't kept up with
                  nomachine's client.</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">look at the way</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">        ENABLE_SHOW_RUNNING_SESSIONS</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">        ENABLE_AUTORECONNECT</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">interact</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">A lot of the code needs "reviewing"
                  which
                  means</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">lots of testing of every feature will
                  need to be</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">done</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">VNC, XDM,windows, smb shares, smb/cups
                  printing</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">        ** big job No
                  3 **</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">If you get that far, then packages need
                  to be</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">produced and re-tested for the various
                  distros.</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">        ** big job No
                  4 **</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">Then designers approvers and accepters
                  are</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">needed with someone(s) in charge to
                  appoint</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">etc</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">        ** big job No
                  5 **</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">Then the appropriate web presence is
                  needed</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">        ** big job No
                  6 **</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">... all possibly just in time for the
                  end of</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">support for nxagent/libraries.</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">If there was a large user base with a
                  sponsor</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">and a fre volunteers then it might be
                  do-able.</font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">I didn't see much enthusiasm last time
                  it</font></tt>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">was proposed tho . . . </font></tt>
              <br>
              <br>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </blockquote>
      <div>In my opinion, freenx should be replaced with something new
        with systemd or lightdm integration.</div>
      <div><span class="Apple-style-span"
          style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
          0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
          0.230469); "><br>
        </span></div>
      <div><span class="Apple-style-span"
          style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
          0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
          0.230469); ">Regards.</span></div>
      <div><span class="Apple-style-span"
          style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
          0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
          0.230469); "><br>
        </span></div>
      <div><span class="Apple-style-span"
          style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
          0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
          0.230469); ">Marcelo Shima </span></div>
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          <div id="quoted-message-content">
            <div>
              <br>
              <br>
              <tt><font size="2">> <br>
                  > Bye Henning<br>
                  > <br>
                </font></tt>
              <div>________________________________________________________________</div>
              <div> Were you helped on this list with your FreeNX
                problem?</div>
              <div> Then please write up the solution in the FreeNX
                Wiki/FAQ:</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://openfacts2.berlios.de/wikien/index.php/BerliosProject:FreeNX_-_FAQ">http://openfacts2.berlios.de/wikien/index.php/BerliosProject:FreeNX_-_FAQ</a></div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div> Don't forget to check the NX Knowledge Base:</div>
              <div> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.nomachine.com/kb/">http://www.nomachine.com/kb/</a></div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>________________________________________________________________</div>
              <div> FreeNX-kNX mailing list --- <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:FreeNX-kNX@kde.org">FreeNX-kNX@kde.org</a></div>
              <div> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx</a></div>
              <div>________________________________________________________________</div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
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      <pre wrap="">________________________________________________________________
     Were you helped on this list with your FreeNX problem?
    Then please write up the solution in the FreeNX Wiki/FAQ:

<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://openfacts2.berlios.de/wikien/index.php/BerliosProject:FreeNX_-_FAQ">http://openfacts2.berlios.de/wikien/index.php/BerliosProject:FreeNX_-_FAQ</a>

         Don't forget to check the NX Knowledge Base:
                 <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.nomachine.com/kb/">http://www.nomachine.com/kb/</a>

________________________________________________________________
       FreeNX-kNX mailing list --- <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:FreeNX-kNX@kde.org">FreeNX-kNX@kde.org</a>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx</a>
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