<br><tt><font size=2>olaf <olaf-linux@gmx.de> wrote on 01/06/2010
13:06:38:<br>
<br>
> Hi!<br>
> <br>
> Am Dienstag, 1. Juni 2010 12:23:17 schrieb Alastair Johnson:<br>
> > The sabayon I know of is a gentoo-based linux distro [1]. From
the context<br>
> > I assume you're talking about something else, but what?<br>
> <br>
> Like Marc said, it is not the sabayon distribution, it is a desktop-lockdown
<br>
> and more.<br>
> I'm talking about<br>
> </font></tt><a href=http://live.gnome.org/Sabayon/><tt><font size=2>http://live.gnome.org/Sabayon/</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
> <br>
> --><br>
> "Sabayon is a system administration tool to define and deploy
<br>
</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>[SNIP]<br>
</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>> <br>
> I have build my (FreeNX-)server for users with restricted access,
the most of <br>
> them are layman (not have a clue) with computers, linux and so on,
they need <br>
> only openoffice and filemanager.<br>
> After har work to build the software (pxe-boot, freenx, ldap, ...)
I noticed <br>
> that "kiosk-Admin-Tool" dows no longer works with the new
kde 4.x, <br>
> so I take a <br>
> look at gnome and sabayon.<br>
</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>Your original post said KDE 4.3.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>I haven't looked at either Kiosk Admin Tool or Sabayon,
and I doubt that</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>anyone else subscribed to this group has either, at
least not with NX.</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>In theory, all of these things you are trying should
work with the NX X server</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>proxy, but until someone has been through and ironed
out any issues</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>(which may be small ones or show-stoppers) then you
are not advised to</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>use them on a live server, unless you are prepared
to work it out for</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>yourself.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>In addition, you have chosed Opensuse 11.2, which
is far from the most</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>popular distribution, and is more "experimental
/ cutting edge" than it</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>is an enterprise product.</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>You may well like the more advanced features ( me
too, that's why I deploy</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>it in certain circumstances ), but you will find more
help available for</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>Ubuntu, which has versions (still free) with long
term support</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>or</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>Centos, which, now that a few issues have been sorted
out has a bright</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>future and a massive user base via RHEL and fedora</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>wheras</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>with opensuse you will be re-installing every 2 years
(max) with </font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>the next batch of new stuff which doesn't quite work
yet.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>I understand that you might want a German distro,
especialy as there</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>is now major uncertainty regarding Novell and SEL
which may </font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>continue for a year or so until M$ buy Novell, or
Suse splits off again</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>but</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>if you are going to use it, you are letting yourself
in for quite a bit of</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>work, </font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>and </font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>bear in mind, as you appear to be first to do most
of this, we would</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>all be looking to you to tell us how you fixed it,
rather than having</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>to try to re-create your problems to come up with
a fix for you.</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>11.2 will only be around for 18 months, then it's
all change again.</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>now</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>regarding locking down your desktops . . .</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>OK, it should work, but it doesn't.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>If your users don't need a full desktop, you should
consider (in the</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>absence of Kiosk or Sabayon working out-of-the-box)</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>either</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>a simpler window manager IceWM or LXDE, </font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>or</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>running your applications rootless,</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>which means they just appear as applications on the
user's desktop.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>> <br>
> Somewhere I read that sabayon opens a "Xnest"-Windows with
ssh / nx-<br>
> server/client ... or something similar, and I thought that can be
the reason <br>
> why it does not work, because freeNX uses this too.<br>
</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>NOTE</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>Your issues are not with actually with FreeNX</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>(which is just one of a number of launcher / session
managers for nomachine's</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>nxagent/proxy),</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>but</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>with the nomachine software its-self, ie the X proxy,
not the script which</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>launched it.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>so</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>You should also look through the nomachine knowledge-base.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>> And now I'm sitting here since weeks with a "ready-to-start"
FreeNX-server, <br>
> but without any possiblity to give the users the same pre-configured
and <br>
> simple desktop (with limitations/restrictions),<br>
</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>I'm still planning to have a look at the samba issue
you asked about,when</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>I can find time (we just had a bank holiday, and now
we're in for a heatwave</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>so you can imagine what happens in rainy London)</font></tt>
<br>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>Also</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>One thing you didn't say was whether you have moved
up to NX v3.4.0</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>on your Suse machines, or you are still on 3.2 from
the Opensuse</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>community repositories.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>You won't illicit much help if people think you are
on an older version.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>I sent you the script to roll an rpm of 3.4 but you
might not have received</font></tt>
<br><tt><font size=2>it.</font></tt>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>> <br>
> Bye<br>
> Olaf<br>
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