<div dir="ltr"><div> 1. RE: KDE Kiosk Question (John Cooper)<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>----------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 1:00 PM <<a href="mailto:enterprise-request@kde.org">enterprise-request@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Enterprise mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. RE: KDE Kiosk Question (John Cooper)<br>
<br></blockquote><div> </div><div>unfortunately as far as i know there is nothing out there thats even rudimentary going into the same direction as "securedesktop" ... there WAS the </div><div>kde kiosk tool -- 13 years ago it was developed and even ported to kde4 ... i managed to install and run it a long time ago but it didn't work anymore because most of the config files changed names in the last years and a lot of settings just did not make it into plasma5 or were renamed</div><div><br></div><div>for my life-exam desktop i strongly depend on the kde kiosk system and i hope it continues to be extended and developed ..</div><div>because there is no kiosk tool anymore and i need something simple to lock down the desktop, especially for the classroom computers, i started (today) with a very very .. very rudimentary version of a new kiosk tool.....</div><div><br></div><div>it's going to be so simple that every "python beginner" is going to understand how it works and should be able to extend, bugfix, develop it..</div><div><br></div><div>currently 5 basic .kiosk config files that contain all the available kiosk "keys" (restrictions)</div><div><br></div><div>like this:</div><div>----------------------------</div><div><div>[Action-1]</div><div>Type=action restriction</div><div>Key=action/kwin_rmb</div><div>Name=Disable Window Manager context menu (Alt-F3)</div><div>Description=The Window Manager context menu is normally shown when Alt-F3 is pressed or when the menu button on the window frame is pressed</div></div><div><div>----------------------------</div></div><div><br></div><div>and a very basic UI that autogenerates itself for the most part by reading those config files..</div><div><a href="http://life-edu.eu/images/life-kiosk.png">http://life-edu.eu/images/life-kiosk.png</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>an apply button that writes all settings into the appropriate plasma configuration files.. and reloads the desktop.</div><div><br></div><div>thats it... and its not working at the moment because as i said.. i just started ... </div><div>but you can follow (or join) the development here:</div><div><a href="https://github.com/valueerrorx/life-kiosk">https://github.com/valueerrorx/life-kiosk</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>(it hopefully can be of some use)</div><div><br></div><div>glhf</div><div><br></div><div>thomas</div><div><br></div><div>PS: of course this thing can grow and features like "userprofiles" etc. may follow in the future.. but for now i'd like to keep it short and simple.. you will be able to lock everything down for the current user only or globally..</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:59:50 +0000<br>
From: John Cooper <<a href="mailto:John.Cooper@Equallives.org.uk" target="_blank">John.Cooper@Equallives.org.uk</a>><br>
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Subject: RE: KDE Kiosk Question<br>
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I'm currently trying to find out whether there is an open source or free alternative equivalent to Visual Automation, Inc's "Secure Desktop" which is currently at release 10 (<a href="http://visualautomation.com/securedesktop/index.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://visualautomation.com/securedesktop/index.html</a>). Does anyone on the Enterprise listing in an enterprise environment know of one which I can trial and use for my environment?<br>
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I'm also trying to setup KDE like a kiosk and/or thin client. However there is an issue where if the low privileges auto logon account doesn't have a password. The unlock screen doesn't work it fails to unlock at all during the auto logon session. It would auto logon to the shared kiosk thin client account and then allow the user to utilise certain applications.<br>
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Subject: RE: KDE Kiosk Question<br>
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Well either completely disabling KWallet on the shared account. Alternatively only allowing it to store and/or retrieve certain specified details. Though the Kiosk functionality as even though it securely encrypts and stores the account details. With a shared account though this functionality isn't as secure as another user of the account could retrieve them.<br>
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While may be allowing different settings for another separate possibly higher privileged account.<br>
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Sent: 25 January 2018 09:47<br>
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Subject: RE: KDE Kiosk Question<br>
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Just CC in enterprise mailing list.<br>
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From: Kai Uwe Broulik [mailto:<a href="mailto:kde@privat.broulik.de" target="_blank">kde@privat.broulik.de</a>]<br>
Sent: 18 January 2018 16:37<br>
To: John Cooper <<a href="mailto:John.Cooper@Equallives.org.uk" target="_blank">John.Cooper@Equallives.org.uk</a>><br>
Subject: Re: KDE Kiosk Question<br>
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Lock down in what way?<br>
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Can you please also CC the enterprise mailing list as I don't necessarily have expertise on all topics.<br>
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Thanks<br>
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Von: <a href="mailto:John.Cooper@Equallives.org.uk" target="_blank">John.Cooper@Equallives.org.uk</a><br>
Gesendet: 18. Januar 2018 5:27 nachm.<br>
An: <a href="mailto:kde@privat.broulik.de" target="_blank">kde@privat.broulik.de</a><br>
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I also are needing to lock down the KWallet as the KDE Neon installation are on a kiosk/shared workstation with shared accounts.<br>
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Sent: 18 January 2018 16:11<br>
To: John Cooper <<a href="mailto:John.Cooper@Equallives.org.uk" target="_blank">John.Cooper@Equallives.org.uk</a>><br>
Subject: Re: KDE Kiosk Question<br>
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Hi,<br>
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> The kiosk documentation hasn't been updated since during 2016 and we<br>
> are now<br>
in 2018. Can anyone be contributor and update the documentation about this This setting wasn't listed in the Kiosk documentation so it is likely needing an update.<br>
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Sure, it's a Wiki. As long as you have a KDE Identity account you should be able to edit it. We created scripts to automatically extract configuration from Plasma widgets, so perhaps something similar could be done for applications.<br>
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> To more specific it is saving the items in Klipper's history I would<br>
> like to lock down. Not how much is held in the clipboard during the<br>
> session. Though having a setting if there is one for it to clear at<br>
> end of logged on session would be great.<br>
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The key would be KeepClipboardContents, ie.<br>
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[General]<br>
KeepClipboardContents[$i]=false<br>
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Cheers<br>
Kai Uwe<br>
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