<html><head></head><body>I think that's the case (will check in the evening). Unfortunately I didn't see that bug report when I searched for it - apparently my result list was too long, sorry for that.<br>
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I added some thoughts on date / time handling there.<br>
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Best,<br>
Bernd <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Am 22. April 2018 21:11:56 MESZ schrieb Maik Qualmann <metzpinguin@gmail.com>:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">I think the cause is this problem: <a href="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=386959">https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=386959</a><br><br>Maik<br><br>Am Sonntag, 22. April 2018, 20:37:41 CEST schrieb B.M.:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi,<br> <br> I further checked other affected files, and here's an example which doesn't<br> have the conflicting date/times:<br> <br> $ exiftool DSC_0014.jpg | grep Date<br> File Modification Date/Time : 2018:02:18 15:41:47+01:00<br> File Access Date/Time : 2018:04:21 21:17:03+02:00<br> File Inode Change Date/Time : 2018:02:18 15:45:03+01:00<br> Modify Date : 2012:04:21 15:00:50<br> Date/Time Original : 2012:04:21 15:00:50<br> Create Date : 2012:04:21 15:00:50<br> Date Display Format : D/M/Y<br> Create Date : 2012:04:21 15:00:50.20<br> Date/Time Original : 2012:04:21 15:00:50.20<br> Modify Date : 2012:04:21 15:00:50.20<br> <br> $ grep Date DSC_0014.jpg.xmp<br> xap:CreateDate="2012-04-21T15:00:50"<br> xap:MetadataDate="2012-04-21T15:00:50"<br> xap:ModifyDate="2012-04-21T15:00:50"<br> exif:DateTimeOriginal="2012-04-21T15:00:50.20"<br> exif:DateTimeDigitized="2012-04-21T15:00:50.20"<br> tiff:DateTime="2012-04-21T15:00:50.20"<br> photoshop:DateCreated="2012-04-21"><br> <br> Should I continue the discussion in a bug report?<br> <br> Can you give me a hint how I can correct that using exiftool (which<br> date/time should I keep / remove)?<br> <br> Also I want to repeat my observation that I had the very same "wrong" date/<br> time shown in digikam when I deleted all digikam databases and recreated<br> them; but when I copied affected test images to a new user his digikam<br> instance (same machine) showed the date/time correctly. I don't see yet how<br> that is possible.<br> <br> Best,<br> Bernd<br> <br> On Sonntag, 22. April 2018 15:16:59 CEST Gilles Caulier wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"> Modify Date : 2001:01:01 01:21:57<br> Date/Time Original : 2012:04:21 13:59:20<br> <br> ^^^ how it's possible to create a file in 2012 and modify it in 2001 ???<br> <br> Gilles Caulier<br> <br> 2018-04-22 15:10 GMT+02:00 B.M. <b-misc@gmx.ch>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;"> Well, I'd appreciate a bit more inputs - why exactly is the jpeg file a<br> mess?<br> There are several dates (modify, create, file modification and file<br> access) and<br> information is reduntant, but I don't see conflicting date/time<br> information.<br> <br> What I started with is overwriting Original Date by Create Date, but<br> doing<br> it<br> with the BQM for several 10'000 files in many different folders takes<br> quite<br> some time, so I decided to stop it and have a look to find out what<br> really<br> is<br> the case.<br> <br> A exiftool-based script would be faster and (for me) easier, but what<br> should I<br> keep / remove exactly? And: the exiftool command I mentioned (see last<br> message) didn't change any date/time information, did it?<br> <br> Thank you!<br> <br> Best,<br> Bernd<br> <br> On Sonntag, 22. April 2018 11:48:20 CEST Gilles Caulier wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"> The jpeg file is a mess. The sidecar sound right.<br> <br> I cannot recommend to drop date in image files, or at least to let few<br> important one, especially in Exif, just in case where is plan to go<br> back<br></blockquote> <br> to<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"> a workflow without sidecar.<br> <br> Let's standard Exif time stamp and patch the tags with right value<br> with<br> your script. All other one can be dropped, as IPTC and XMP, as sidecar<br> do<br> the job instead.<br> <br> Gilles Caulier<br> <br> 2018-04-22 11:34 GMT+02:00 B.M. <b-misc@gmx.ch>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi,<br> <br> Thank you Gilles for your fast answer, can you maybe help me<br></blockquote></blockquote> <br> understanding<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"> the<br> second paragraph, I add some more data from a photo showing "wrong"<br></blockquote></blockquote> <br> time<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"> stamps:<br> <br> $ exiftool DSC_0003.jpg | grep Date<br> File Modification Date/Time : 2018:02:18 15:41:57+01:00<br> File Access Date/Time : 2018:04:21 21:17:01+02:00<br> File Inode Change Date/Time : 2018:02:18 15:45:03+01:00<br> Modify Date : 2001:01:01 01:21:57<br> Date/Time Original : 2012:04:21 13:59:20<br> Create Date : 2012:04:21 13:59:20<br> Date Display Format : D/M/Y<br> Profile Date Time : 1998:02:09 06:49:00<br> Create Date : 2012:04:21 13:59:20.00<br> Date/Time Original : 2012:04:21 13:59:20.00<br> Modify Date : 2001:01:01 01:21:57.00<br> <br> $ grep Date DSC_0003.jpg.xmp<br> <br> xmp:CreateDate="2012-04-21T13:59:20"<br> xmp:MetadataDate="2012-04-21T13:59:20"<br> xmp:ModifyDate="2012-04-21T13:59:20"<br> exif:DateTimeOriginal="2012-04-21T13:59:20.00"<br> exif:DateTimeDigitized="2012-04-21T13:59:20.00"<br> tiff:DateTime="2012-04-21T13:59:20.00"<br> photoshop:DateCreated="2012-04-21"><br> <br> So I don't see any inconsistencies in the metadata.<br> <br> But I modified my image metadata (should be a cleanup) using a<br> script<br></blockquote></blockquote> <br> some<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"> weeks ago and so I thought indeed that there might be a connection:<br> <br> exiftool -XMP-digiKam:TagsList= -XMP-lr:HierarchicalSubject= -XMP-<br> microsoft:LastKeywordXMP= -IPTC:Keywords= -XMP-dc:Subject=<br> -overwrite_original<br> -r -ext jpg -ext JPG -ext jpeg -ext JPEG <my folders><br> <br> The idea for that command was a huge cleanup; since I switched to<br> the<br> "write<br> to sidecar files only" option for some years now, I wanted to remove<br></blockquote></blockquote> <br> all<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"> self-<br> created metadata from the image files themselves, keep them only in<br> the<br> sidecar<br> files. Because otherwise I expected to get duplicate and potentially<br></blockquote></blockquote> <br> non-<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"> synchronized metadata.<br> <br> Do you see anything?<br> <br> Thank you very much.<br> <br> Best,<br> Bernd<br> <br> On Sonntag, 22. April 2018 10:49:54 CEST Gilles Caulier wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi,<br> <br> This is an old behavior that i coded few years ago. There are many<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <br> many<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> tags relevant of date time in Exif (and also IPTC and XMP)<br> <br> Typically, i preserved a date time tags with "original" shot date<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <br> when<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"> user<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> patch a wrong time stamp in metadata, just in case. this one must<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <br> never<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"> be<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> used in DK database while scanning.<br> <br> I currently working in 6.0.0 source code to review all metadata<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <br> engine<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"> and<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> i will drop this feature definitively as this can introduce side<br> effects.<br> <br> Please report this problem in bugzilla (or look if one do not<br> already<br> exist), and comment inline.<br> <br> Thanks in advance.<br> <br> Gilles Caulier<br> <br> 2018-04-22 9:19 GMT+02:00 B.M. <b-misc@gmx.ch>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> Dear all,<br> <br> I have a somehow strange problem: wrong Created Times are shown,<br> replicable,<br> but only for a certain user.<br> <br> Since at least a week or so, digikam shows "wrong" times in<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <br> thumbnail<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> view,<br> which results in a wrong sorting.<br> <br> E.g. I have a picture which shows 02.03.12 01:00<br> The properties tab on the right shows Created 02.03.12 01:00<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <br> (wrong)<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> The metadata tab shows for EXIF:<br> Date and Time 02.03.12 13:53:45 (correct)<br> Date and Time (digitized) 02.03.12 13:53:45 (correct)<br> Date and Time (original) 02.03.12 01:00:00 (wrong)<br> <br> for IPTC:<br> Date Created 2012-03-02<br> Digitization Date 2012-03-02<br> Time Created 13:53:45+00:00 (correct)<br> <br> Interestingly, if I look at my different album folders, not all<br></blockquote></blockquote> <br> pictures<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> are<br> affected; in typical folders, about 30 - 60% show wrong times.<br> Most<br> folders<br> are affected, but not all.<br> <br> The wrong times is 01:00:00 for most of the pictures, but<br> 02:00:00<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <br> is<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> shown as<br> well, other times are not shown. It seem to be folder-specific,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <br> i.e.<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"> in a<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> certain album folder it's either 01:00:00 or 02:00:00.<br> <br> If I rebuild digikam's databases (by renaming the old ones) I<br> get<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <br> the<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"> same<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> wrong times (especially the wrong one in the thumbnail view).<br> <br> But if I copy the image (and its xmp sidecar file) to a new<br> (test)<br></blockquote></blockquote> <br> user on<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> the<br> same machine and he imports it (new digikam setup), the correct<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <br> time<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> (13:53)<br> is shown for this different user.<br> <br> I realized this behaviour about a week ago but didn't use<br> digikam<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <br> for<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"> some<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> weeks before. But I don't think this happened before (I'd<br> noticed<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <br> it),<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"> but<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> if<br> I look at different album folders I get the impression that and<br></blockquote></blockquote> <br> increasing<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> number is affected. My system is Debian Stable, with digikam<br> 5.3.0.<br> <br> If I check with exiftool, I correctly get<br> <br> Date/Time Original : 2012:03:02 13:53:45<br> Sub Sec Time Original : 00<br> Date/Time Original : 2012:03:02 13:53:45.00<br> <br> (but why is it reported twice?)<br> <br> All files are on the same disk.<br> <br> What could be the reason for this weird behavior? Thank you for<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <br> your<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> support!<br> <br> No, I didn't drink too much beer or wine for the current high<br></blockquote></blockquote> <br> temperatures<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ccc; padding-left: 1ex;"> here in continental Europe...<br> <br> Best regards,<br> Bernd<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><br><br><br><br></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>