<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div>I agree on a separate tab. It could be a good "Quick Access" tab.</div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Tobias Margiani <margianit@gmail.com> </div><div>Date: 2017-03-19 5:45 AM (GMT-07:00) </div><div>To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <digikam-users@kde.org> </div><div>Subject: Re: Idea for improvement of metadata sidebar </div><div><br></div></div>Hi,<br><br>This looks really useful to me. Thanks for your work creating the mock up.<br>My only suggestions are adding the aspect ratio to the metadata field (on the <br>proposed tab) and add this in addition to the existing tabs instead of <br>removing them.<br>I would keep the other tabs because there are still some options which would <br>clutter the new tab but could benefit some users (or help people used to it). <br>Some examples are on the properties tab the file owner, in the caption tab the <br>caption author, or on the maps tab the larger view and the possibility to <br>change properties like the map type.<br><br>Best,<br>Tobias Margiani<br><br>On Montag, 13. Februar 2017 22:24:57 CET Jens Benecke wrote:<br>> Hi,<br>> <br>> thanks for the feedback. There was also a PNG screenshot attached to my<br>> email which showed the original layout. Regarding your comments:<br>> <br>> 1: This is not a left-side (= filter) sidebar but a right-side (= editor)<br>> sidebar. So clicking on the date should modify the selected image(s)’s<br>> date(s). „Select by date“ already exists on the left side of Digikam’s main<br>> window. If multiple images are selected, this should show a date range and<br>> editing this might even be used to shift dates (with a confirmation dialog<br>> asking whether to set all dates to the same value or to use the first<br>> selected image as base date and use the delta to shift all dates - just<br>> like the extra wizard does now).<br>> <br>> 2: Ratings are shown to the right of the filename. Basically just like now<br>> only that the basic image metadata isn’t spread over five different tabs.<br>> <br>> 3: The tags tree should stay. My original idea was not to replace multiple<br>> existing editing tabs but to only replace the (redundant) first one called<br>> „Properties“. I was looking for a quick and compact way to view and edit<br>> common metadata of selected images explicitly *without* having to use the<br>> tree. If selected images have a non-unique set of tags, the tag input field<br>> should reflect this (either show non-unique tags greyed out or something<br>> like that).<br>> <br>> But coming to think of it, this dashboard would have the potential to clean<br>> up the whole right sidebar. Here’s my thoughts:<br>> <br>> „Properties“: replace This can be completely replaced. As of now I do not<br>> see any use case that isn’t covered. Plus we save lots on translation<br>> strings we don’t need any more. „Metadata“: keep This is a „more details“<br>> version of Properties. It would stay. „Colors“: keep This - for me - is<br>> nothing I use often (I use it on my camera often, but not in Digikam).<br>> „Map“: remove The map would become part of the dashboard. Smaller, though.<br>> „Captions“:<br>> Description remove - contains most of what the Dashboard will contain<br>> too. Tags keep - contain the tag tree and an entry field. The tree by<br>> itself won’t be replaceable. Information keep - contains IPTC information<br>> about the author. Also not replaceable. „Versions“: keep This is not<br>> covered.<br>> „Filter“: keep Also not covered.<br>> „Extras“: don’t know, these are tools that - IMHO - only belong into a<br>> menu, not an icon view.<br>> <br>> I updated my mockup in the attachment plus added a screenshot so you can<br>> view it even without the correct fonts).<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> --<br>> Jens Benecke - jens@spamfreemail.de <mailto:jens@spamfreemail.de><br>> Keine Lust auf Müll in ihrem Postfach? www.spamfreemail.de<br>> <http://www.spamfreemail.de/><br>> > Am 13.02.2017 um 00:22 schrieb Andrey Goreev <aegoreev@gmail.com>:<br>> > <br>> > Jens,<br>> > <br>> > That looks interesting. I do have a couple of suggestions though.<br>> > <br>> > 1. Click on the date should better show all images taken on that date. To<br>> > edit date we better have an "edit" button beside.<br>> > <br>> > 2. Ratings. I don't see them in your spreadsheet. Are these 5 little<br>> > squares in top right corner tags? I opened the document via Libre Office<br>> > Viewer app for Android which is still pretty raw so I won't be surprised<br>> > if it does not show some embedded pictures or symbols. 3. I do like have<br>> > Tags Tree uncollupsed when tagging my pics so Minimize/Maximize button<br>> > would work best I think. When Minimized it looks and works just like you<br>> > suggested. When Maximized it looks and works like it does at the moment.<br>> > <br>> > Thanks for the awesome suggestion!<br>> > Cheers,<br>> > Andrey<br>> > <br>> > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.<br>> > <br>> > -------- Original message --------<br>> > From: Jens Benecke <jens-digikam@spamfreemail.de><br>> > Date: 2017-02-12 3:12 PM (GMT-07:00)<br>> > To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the<br>> > power of open source <digikam-users@kde.org> Subject: Idea for<br>> > improvement of metadata sidebar<br>> > <br>> > Hello everybody,<br>> > <br>> > I'm not posting this on bugs.kde.org since I would like some discussion<br>> > on this topic first.<br>> > I originally come from iPhoto and similar commercial apps. My workflow<br>> > when importing images (and videos) into Digikam might reflect this a<br>> > little - I find myself constantly switching between tabs in Digikam to<br>> > perform simple image management / organizational tasks.<br>> > <br>> > I think this can be improved a lot by modifying the layout and usability<br>> > of Digikam's "Properties" sidebar (the top one on the right) and<br>> > converting it into a summary-/ dashboard kind of sidebar which covers<br>> > 80-90% of all requirements in one single place. Currently it is just a<br>> > list of image and file properties and not used for editing at all -<br>> > which makes it kind of superfluous (IMHO).<br>> > <br>> > I have created a mockup of how this sidebar can be improved by<br>> > incorporating simple editing tasks. The idea is that for simple asset<br>> > management tasks (adding titles, ratings and tags, editing dates and<br>> > viewing basic image metadata) you *only* need this single sidebar. The<br>> > idea is *NOT* to squeeze all possible metadata into one dialog.<br>> > <br>> > This is a little inspired by iPhoto's organization of metadata which I<br>> > found quite usable.<br>> > <br>> > Please have a look and tell me what you think.<br>> > <br>> > Thanks!<br><br><br></body></html>