<div dir="ltr">This is my work machine. I use the same machine for work and photography, and doing that would kill my workflow. I tried that already, and gave up on it. It just doesn't work the way I do. Thanks for the suggestion though.<div><br></div><div>It is JUST a Unity problem, but it only happens with Digikam. All other KDE apps work fine. </div><div><br><div>regards</div><div>Derek</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Philip Johnsson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philip.johnsson@gmail.com" target="_blank">philip.johnsson@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Isn't this "just" a Unity problem? What about installing an other desktop environment to use with digikam as a workaround? Either login in using it only the times you use digikam and other times login with Unity if you really love it. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Not the best solution but if it bothers you then it's one solution for the time being.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Just a thought...</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">/Philip</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 Mar 2017 07:38, "Derek Keats" <<a href="mailto:derek@dkeats.com" target="_blank">derek@dkeats.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Sorry to belabour this... but according to the Ubuntu Launchpad bug-tracking instructions<br><br><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px">Typically, what isn't supported is software from a PPA (Personal Package Archive), 3rd party packages, self-compiled software, etc. For more on supported Ubuntu repositories, please see here. If you are using unsupported software, it is best to file a bug in that program's bug tracker directly. <br><br></blockquote>I think if I report this but with Ubuntu, it will be ignored because the version is 'unsupported'. I am scared now that if Digikam updates via the PPA as I would wish, then my several years of developing a photography workflow for Digikam will be lost. So I have to be content with a semi-working version and remove the PPA. DK 5.4 works, but has the double menu, DK 5.5 appimage is totally broken even on Ubuntu 16.04. If I had money I would pay a bounty to have this fixed, but I am just a humble amateur photography user. <div><br></div><div>What do I do? Is there anyone with more technical knowledge than me who can take a look at the code one more time in relation to Unity? </div><div><br></div><div>Just a FYI, my photos are all 'open source' (CC:BY) or 'public domain' (CC:0), and thanks to being able to work fast and tag images with Digikam, I have 8 million views on Flickr, and many thousands of uses under those licenses. It is heart rending to think of not using DK for this. I will do ANYTHING I can from my end to help and do my part to get this bug fixed. But it seems to be stuck between a rock and a hard place.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for understanding,</div><div>regards</div><div>Derek<br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Derek Keats <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:derek@dkeats.com" target="_blank">derek@dkeats.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I must apologies for this, but 50% of the issue is there in Ubuntu 16.04. I was so happy to be able to get back to managing and posting my photos that I didn't notice the issue. This may help diagnose the problem... which in my naive way of thinking has to be have something to do with Digikam interacting with the Unity menu. <br><br></div><div>So there are two places the menubar can be: On the application window at the top, and on the topbar as per the Mac way. <br><br></div><div>The first time I open the Digikam editor on Ubuntu 16.04, the menubar is present in both places. The second time I open it, it is only present on the Digikam editor window. It has disappeared from the top. I can still use it, but it is not the correct behaviour. <br><br></div><div>Before I log it against Unity, is it appropriate to ask if it can be double checked in the DK code? Sorry if that is out of line, but I really want to get to the bottom of this. <br><br></div><div>thanks<span class="m_-7325331484413175278m_8052661756824064937HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><span class="m_-7325331484413175278m_8052661756824064937HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>Derek<br></div><div><br></div></font></span></div><div class="m_-7325331484413175278m_8052661756824064937HOEnZb"><div class="m_-7325331484413175278m_8052661756824064937h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Gilles Caulier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:caulier.gilles@gmail.com" target="_blank">caulier.gilles@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">So, we can considerate a regression from Unity, not from digiKAm, as previous version work as expected...<br><div><br></div><div>Report this problem to Unity bugzilla...</div><span class="m_-7325331484413175278m_8052661756824064937m_6179605218395705656HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Gilles Caulier</div></font></span></div><div class="m_-7325331484413175278m_8052661756824064937m_6179605218395705656HOEnZb"><div class="m_-7325331484413175278m_8052661756824064937m_6179605218395705656h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-02-25 14:32 GMT+01:00 Derek Keats <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:derek@dkeats.com" target="_blank">derek@dkeats.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Here is a result of my testing (all tests in VMs, but Elementary also tested on old laptop):<div><br></div><div><font color="#ff0000">Ubuntu 16.10 Unity -- - Has the issue reported here so DK unusable</font><br></div><div><font color="#6aa84f">Ubuntu 16.04 Unity -- Works as expected<br></font></div><div><font color="#6aa84f">Ubuntu 16.10 Gnome --- Works as expected</font></div><div><font color="#6aa84f">Ubuntu 16.10 KDE -- Works as expected</font></div><div><font color="#6aa84f">Elementary OS Loki -- Works as expected</font></div><div><font color="#6aa84f">Manjaro 17.0 KDE -- Works as expected</font></div><div><font color="#6aa84f">Linuxmint 18.1 cinnamon -- Works as expected</font><br></div><div><br></div><div>It would seem to be an issue with Ubuntu 16.10 Unity, rather than Ubuntu per se or Digikam per se.</div><div><br></div><div>regards</div><span class="m_-7325331484413175278m_8052661756824064937m_6179605218395705656m_5250972416318278248HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>Derek</div><div><br></div></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_-7325331484413175278m_8052661756824064937m_6179605218395705656m_5250972416318278248h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 7:34 PM, Andrey Goreev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aegoreev@gmail.com" target="_blank">aegoreev@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Derek,</div><div><br></div><div>Please check if the bug exists in Ubuntu GNOME if you have a chance. I think it might be A GNOME 3 thing not Unity.</div><span><div><br></div><div id="m_-7325331484413175278m_8052661756824064937m_6179605218395705656m_5250972416318278248m_-2985010401564955379m_2004893803280617124composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.</div></div><div><br></div></span><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><span><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Gilles Caulier <<a href="mailto:caulier.gilles@gmail.com" target="_blank">caulier.gilles@gmail.com</a>> </div></span><div><div class="m_-7325331484413175278m_8052661756824064937m_6179605218395705656m_5250972416318278248m_-2985010401564955379h5"><div>Date: 2017-02-21 10:14 AM (GMT-07:00) </div><div>To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <<a href="mailto:digikam-users@kde.org" target="_blank">digikam-users@kde.org</a>> </div><div>Subject: Re: Missing menus </div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div><div class="m_-7325331484413175278m_8052661756824064937m_6179605218395705656m_5250972416318278248m_-2985010401564955379h5"><div dir="ltr">I don't ignore Ubuntu, else i will not speak about in this room.<div><br></div><div>I want mean that Ubuntu is not finalized as other desktop present under Linux since a very long time. And dysfunctions exists and must be resolved by Ubuntu team. Why i will pass precious time for Ubuntu after all, if the desktop manager as weird side effects on applications which exist before Ubuntu as well..</div><div><br></div><div>Ubuntu is not Linux after all... and as i can see, with my very long experience in computer science, well the Ubuntu desktop is buggous and not finalized. This is the reality, i'm sorry...</div><div><br></div><div>If Ubuntu team propose patches to improve digiKam under this distro, i will have no problem to review and apply. For the moment, I see nothing coming from Ubuntu star...</div><div><br></div><div>Or perhaps digiKam is not a priority or is considerate as a weird application, that i can understand. But in this case, do not ask me to support more and more this distro as well...</div><div><br></div><div>Gilles Caulier</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-02-21 18:02 GMT+01:00 Andrey Goreev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aegoreev@gmail.com" target="_blank">aegoreev@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>You can't regret the fact that Ubuntu gave non-geeks like me a chance to enjoy using an open source OS though.</div><div>Yes in some cases it works not the way the rest distributions do but we still need to respect it as a part of the community and should not ignore it.</div><span><div><br></div><div id="m_-7325331484413175278m_8052661756824064937m_6179605218395705656m_5250972416318278248m_-2985010401564955379m_2004893803280617124m_-6188238386317435364composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.</div></div><div><br></div></span><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><span><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Gilles Caulier <<a href="mailto:caulier.gilles@gmail.com" target="_blank">caulier.gilles@gmail.com</a>> </div></span><span><div>Date: 2017-02-21 9:55 AM (GMT-07:00) </div><div>To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <<a href="mailto:digikam-users@kde.org" target="_blank">digikam-users@kde.org</a>> </div><div>Subject: Re: Missing menus </div><div><br></div></span></div><div><div class="m_-7325331484413175278m_8052661756824064937m_6179605218395705656m_5250972416318278248m_-2985010401564955379m_2004893803280617124h5"><div dir="ltr">yes, i know. My remarks about Ubuntu are not about Debian...<div><br></div><div>Gilles Caulier</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-02-21 17:07 GMT+01:00 maderios <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maderios@gmail.com" target="_blank">maderios@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On 02/21/2017 02:12 PM, Gilles Caulier wrote:<br>
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The truth is elsewhere (:-)))... As usual with Ubuntu, nothing work as<br>
other Linux boxes...<br>
This confirm my point of view about this distro, and you know it already.<br>
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Hi<br>
Every knows Ubuntu is Ubuntu, not Debian... :)<br>
Digikam works fine with Debian.<span class="m_-7325331484413175278m_8052661756824064937m_6179605218395705656m_5250972416318278248m_-2985010401564955379m_2004893803280617124m_-6188238386317435364HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Maderios<br>
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