<div dir="ltr">OK, thanks.<div><br></div><div>That's the information I didn't know because I do not work with raw files. Hopefully you can find a good solution.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Juan Jose Casafranca <<a href="mailto:jjcasmar@gmail.com">jjcasmar@gmail.com</a>> schrieb am Fr., 6. Jan. 2017 um 21:49 Uhr:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">I have also thought something like that. The problem is that raw processors usually dont touch the original raw file. The only output an xmp file. With this in mind, is common to duplicate the xmp file to different processes, so you end with only a raw file but several xmp files for that raw file (imagine you want a black and white version of a photo but also the color version). Therefore, it's not possible to just update the embedded file, because there is not just one unique output from the raw processor :-) </div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">2017-01-06 21:46 GMT+01:00 Eduard Zalar <span dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:eduard@zalar.de" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">eduard@zalar.de</a>></span>:<br class="gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">this is an interesting discussion.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Wouldn't it be better to enable darktable to update the embedded JPEG image in the raw file?</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">In this case digiKam would detect a change in the file and automatically update the thumbnail, isn't it?</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">It's just an idea...</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Normally, I do not use raw files so I don't know if there may exist another restriction which avoids this.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Regards </div><div class="gmail_msg">Eddie</div><div class="m_-5646673913950356416HOEnZb gmail_msg"><div class="m_-5646673913950356416h5 gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Simon Frei <<a href="mailto:freisim93@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">freisim93@gmail.com</a>> schrieb am Fr., 6. Jan. 2017, 20:47:<br class="gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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First thing to do is open a bugzilla issue where you describe what
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There you probably get better pointers for where to start from
experienced devs, I never worked with that part of the code. This is
the function that creates thumbnails:<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
<a class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999m_-8550149403198194103moz-txt-link-freetext m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg" href="https://cgit.kde.org/digikam.git/tree/libs/threadimageio/thumbnailcreator.cpp?id=429fa5fd8e7f53b74c82eb19dffb2e6cf4b4325c#n455" target="_blank">https://cgit.kde.org/digikam.git/tree/libs/threadimageio/thumbnailcreator.cpp?id=429fa5fd8e7f53b74c82eb19dffb2e6cf4b4325c#n455</a></div><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg"><br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
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<div class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999m_-8550149403198194103moz-cite-prefix m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">On 06/01/17 20:18, Juan Jose Casafranca
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<div dir="ltr" class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">Yes, exactly, that is my suggestion :-)
<div class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">I think that it will give digikam a great boost if it can
communicate with specific raw processors :-)</div>
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<div class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">I understand that it could be an intensive task, but
there are some ways to limit the heavyness.</div>
<div class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">For example, digikam should only process the new
thumbnail when darktable is opened through digikam interface
and at the beginning.</div>
<div class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">Or maybe just marking which files are dirty and then
calling darktable in lib mode to update those thumbnails. </div>
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<div class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">I would be happy to work on something like this. Any idea
on where to begin with? Ive never touched the digikam code
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<div class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">Cheers</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">2017-01-06 20:10 GMT+01:00 Simon Frei <span dir="ltr" class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:freisim93@gmail.com" class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg" target="_blank">freisim93@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
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Do I understand you correctly: You want thumbnails of raw
files that are<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
adjusted based on the processing profiles of darktable?<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
If that is the case, it is (currently) not possible in
digikam. And such<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
a function would certainly be very resource heavy, as for
every<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
thumbnail on every change darktable had to process the raw
file.<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
The interface between digikam and other photo editing
software could<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
certainly be improved (e.g. versioning too), so I would be
very happy if<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
you would work on that in any way;)<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
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Cheers,<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
Simon<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
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On 06/01/17 20:01, Juan Jose Casafranca wrote:<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
> Hi everybody,<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
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> I would like to know if there is any easy way to
use digikam as a photo<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
> management software and use darktable for raw
editing.<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
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> The main issue I'm finding when I try to do this is
this one<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
> -Raw thumbnails are loaded from the jpeg embeded
file and when I change process<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
> my photo in darktable, this thumbnail isn't changed
in digikam<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
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> It would be nice that digikam reads the darktable
sidecar and uses an specified<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
> software (or digikam editor tool if no software is
specified) to load the<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
> preview file for raw pictures. Is there any way to
do this?<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
><br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
> If there's no such way to do this, I will be happy
to post it in the<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
> developers mailing list and try to implement it,
because I feel that darktable<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
> management features are far away from digikam ones
and digikam editor features<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
> are far away from darktable ones. It would be nice
to have both softwares<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
> working together :-)<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
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> Any idea?<br class="m_-5646673913950356416m_5771840738025510999gmail_msg gmail_msg">
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