+1 for me too.<div><br></div><div>Marcel, Andi ?</div><div><br></div><div>Gilles Caulier<br><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/8/23 Francesco Riosa <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:francesco@pnpitalia.it">francesco@pnpitalia.it</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On 08/23/11 10:36, todd rme wrote:<br>
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On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Tom Albers<<a href="mailto:toma@kde.org" target="_blank">toma@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Gilles Caulier<br>
<<a href="mailto:caulier.gilles@gmail.com" target="_blank">caulier.gilles@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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2011/8/10 todd rme<<a href="mailto:toddrme2178@gmail.com" target="_blank">toddrme2178@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Tom Albers<<a href="mailto:toma@kde.org" target="_blank">toma@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Gilles Caulier<br>
<<a href="mailto:caulier.gilles@gmail.com" target="_blank">caulier.gilles@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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2011/8/10 todd rme<<a href="mailto:toddrme2178@gmail.com" target="_blank">toddrme2178@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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Currently the vast majority of emails to this list are<br>
automatic<br>
emails from <a href="http://bugs.kde.org" target="_blank">bugs.kde.org</a>, making it very hard to find the<br>
non-bug<br>
discussions and hard for non-developers who are trying to<br>
follow<br>
the<br>
digikam development process. To be specific, since the start<br>
of<br>
August there have been 333 non-spam emails to this list. Of<br>
those,<br>
311 (over 93%) were automatic emails from <a href="http://bugs.kde.org" target="_blank">bugs.kde.org</a>, and<br>
another 9<br>
were from git commits or reviewboard. Only 13 were<br>
announcements<br>
or<br>
discussions directly on the mailing list.<br>
<br>
Given the high volume of bug reports relative to other<br>
emails, I<br>
think<br>
it would be very helpful if bug reports were sent to a<br>
second,<br>
dedicated mailing list rather than the main list. This would<br>
make<br>
it<br>
easier to follow discussions and make it easier to filter and<br>
categorize emails in email programs. I suspect, but am not<br>
sure,<br>
that<br>
it would also encourage more discussion since emails to the<br>
list<br>
would<br>
not get lost so easily.<br>
<br>
-Todd<br>
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<br>
I agree.<br>
<br>
There is a volumnter to ask a new email adress to kde team<br>
dedicated<br>
to trace bug report and configure it to bugzilla ?<br>
<br>
Gilles Caulier<br>
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<br>
CCed Tom Albers, who seems to be keeping track of the mailing<br>
lists<br>
at<br>
least to some extent.<br>
<br>
@ Tom: Do you have any suggestions on how to go about doing<br>
this?<br>
<br>
-Todd<br>
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<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
Usually dedicated mailinglists for bugs don't work. It will only<br>
be interesting for 1 or 2 people.<br>
<br>
What I would like to suggest is this:<br>
<br>
We assign a special bugzilla user to all digikam bugs. That way<br>
the mails to the -devel mailinglist will stop.<br>
<br>
For people that want to get all the mails, they can go to<br>
bugzilla and 'follow' that special user. Then they get a mail<br>
for all changes as they have received up to now.<br>
<br>
Is that an idea? If so, please make a sysadmin bugreport (see<br>
footer <a href="http://bugs.kde.org" target="_blank">bugs.kde.org</a>) so we can set it up for you.<br>
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<br>
That would be fine for me, but the digikam developers would need<br>
to<br>
make the final decision.<br>
<br>
-Todd<br>
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<br>
One user who receive all bugzilla mail ? It's weird...<br>
<br>
typically, all developers are registered to a ML. Developers will<br>
be<br>
triggered to interesting reports (typically each developer maintain<br>
a<br>
part in digiKam).<br>
<br>
If only one guy receive bugzilla notification, this filtering will<br>
be<br>
broken. One people cannot dispatch/assign bug to right developers.<br>
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<br>
I think the idea is to have one "virtual" <a href="http://bugs.kde.org" target="_blank">bugs.kde.org</a> user, say<br>
"digikam-developers" or something like that. That user is<br>
automatically subscribed to all digikam bug reports.<br>
<br>
On <a href="http://bugs.kde.org" target="_blank">bugs.kde.org</a>, individual users can say that they want to "watch"<br>
particular users. Here is the description from <a href="http://bugs.kde.org" target="_blank">bugs.kde.org</a>, which<br>
explains it better than I can:<br>
<br>
"If you watch a user, it is as if you are standing in their shoes for<br>
the purposes of getting email. Email is sent or not according to your<br>
preferences for their relationship to the bug (e.g. Assignee)."<br>
<br>
So anyone who watches that virtual user will automatically get all<br>
the<br>
digikam bug reports emailed to them directly by <a href="http://bugs.kde.org" target="_blank">bugs.kde.org</a> without<br>
having to through a mailing list or individually subscribe to bugs.<br>
Anyone who wants to stop getting these emails can just remove the<br>
"virtual" user from their watch list.<br>
<br>
What is more, I think it could even be broken up more finely, with<br>
"virtual" users for any digikam component (although I am not sure<br>
about that). If you do it that way, users could pick which<br>
components<br>
they wish to follow by watching particular users.<br>
<br>
Did I explain that right, Tom?<br>
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<br>
Perfectly! Come work for the sysadmin team :)<br>
<br>
One tiny correction: the mails from bugzilla contain the component in the headers if i recall correctly, so your breaking up idea is not needed, you can filter in your mail client.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
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<br>
So does this sound like a good plan to everyone?<br>
<br>
-Todd<br>
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I'm currently filtering dk messages with the following rules:<br>
<br>
name="dk-commit"<br>
action="Move to folder"<br>
actionValue="/INBOX/DigiKam/<u></u>commits"<br>
condition="AND (\"x-commit-project\",begins with,digikam)"<br>
<br>
name="dk-bug-ml"<br>
action="Move to folder"<br>
actionValue="/INBOX/DigiKam/<u></u>bugs-ml"<br>
condition="AND (\"x-bugzilla-url\",is,<a href="http://bugs.kde.org/" target="_blank">http://<u></u>bugs.kde.org/</a>) AND (\"list-id\",begins with,digiKam)"<br>
<br>
name="dk-ml"<br>
action="Move to folder"<br>
actionValue="/INBOX/DigiKam/<u></u>devel"<br>
condition="AND (\"list-id\",begins with,digiKam)"<br>
<br>
name="dk-bugs"<br>
action="Move to folder"<br>
actionValue="/INBOX/DigiKam/<u></u>bugs"<br>
condition="AND (\"list-post\",is,<mailto:<a href="mailto:bug-control@bugs.kde.org" target="_blank">bug-<u></u>control@bugs.kde.org</a>>)"<br>
<br>
<br>
Something more simple and easyer for newcomers would be good.<br>
so +1<br><font color="#888888">
<br>
- Francesco</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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