<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 January 2016 at 14:12, René J.V. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rjvbertin@gmail.com" target="_blank">rjvbertin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On Monday January 18 2016 12:47:59 C. Boemann wrote:<br>
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>Well what you would get is a really empty document then - not pages, no font,<br>
>no margins, no nothing - all of those decisions is what is stored in a<br>
>template. Having to code all those decisions just for the sake of not loading<br>
>a file with those decisions "coded" through a much nice user interface called a<br>
>wordprocessor is well.. stupid.<br>
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</span>I'm not sure I agree. I'm quite sure that in OpenOffice and a few other wordprocessors, things like the default styles, page size etc. are configured at a different level than the document template (though a template could probably override them). I may be wrong, of course, but I'd certainly appreciate it if templates have the option to omit specifying things like styles and page size so that my own preference in these matters applies.<br>
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Anyway, go ahead, forget I made some noises :)<br></blockquote><div><br><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:small;display:inline">Some people want a document with default footer/header, like a company logo.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:small;display:inline">This is all defined in file format, default document instance == template, GUI only follows what's in the document and document standard.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:small;display:inline">The original document is not just an almost empty XML also for historical reason; like Camilla said, truly empty document would be probably even logically broken/invalid for some editors, if it lacks a single frame and user isn't able to insert proper frame. I bet not even 0.1% of users understand that the central area of the document can be actually a frame. This is exactly because they're used to see default "empty" documents being preconfigured for them, to start being productive right after the app starts. <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:small;display:inline"></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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