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<p style="margin-top: 0;">On October 3rd, 2012, 7:38 p.m., <b>Jarosław Staniek</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">I propose that we use the opportunity of removing bloat[tm].
I think something could be changed, but not this move ("Show Statusbar" is in Settings menu in the never-finished KDE HIG). As usual, let's ask yourself and your testers, how frequently do you use the option.
I have personally seen users and myself rather calling full-screen action, if anything, in apps to get some space for my editor's content. So how about a setting in application settings dialog, not a prominent View option?
For special users that feel ignored by that, there are always the shortcut keys editor and the toolbar editor.</pre>
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<p>On October 3rd, 2012, 8:36 p.m., <b>Boudewijn Rempt</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">I do agree with this. A configurable full-screen action like Krita has will be more useful. Toggling the visibility of the statusbar (or menubar) really isn't useful. On the other hand, consistency with other KDE applications is important all by itself. </pre>
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<p>On October 3rd, 2012, 8:48 p.m., <b>Jarosław Staniek</b> wrote:</p>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Right, consistency with other KDE applications is important, even if we have never seen the HIGs finished. Not having the option in menu looks like a lesser evil to me. Moreover I have feeling that KDE apps will change these defaults while heading to what would be KDE 5; e.g. see the QMLish interfaces promoted by Nuno, modernized Dolphin menu and finally -- possible influence of Plasma Active on KDE _desktop_. If that's close to reality, we could target the future of KDE and make reasonable improvements aimed more at usability improvements than on compliance. I believe these improvements would pay off regardless of how KDE 5 will 'look' like.</pre>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Regarding the HIG: I have talked with Ellen a long time ago and asked her about all the view stuff under Settings. She said that having it under settings was just a bug, it actually belongs to View. Unfortunately that bug was never fixed.
Regarding the general discussion, I agree that we should have it but let's do it on the ML instead of in the review board. I look forward to a suggestion for a full set of actions that we can share in all apps. (Btw, I thought we had full-screen mode in most (all?) apps already.
A full-screen action is useful but I don't understand why it would block moving the show/not show of the menubar</pre>
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<p>On September 30th, 2012, 12:10 a.m., Inge Wallin wrote:</p>
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<div>Review request for Calligra, Marijn Kruisselbrink, Thorsten Zachmann, and C. Boemann.</div>
<div>By Inge Wallin.</div>
<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Sept. 30, 2012, 12:10 a.m.</i></p>
<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">This patch moves the action "Show Statusbar" to the View menu.
It's obvious that to show the statusbar or not is a View thing.
One thing to comment on is whether all applications should have this setting. Currently they don't.</pre>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Testing </h1>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Tested all affected applications.</pre>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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<li>sheets/sheets.rc <span style="color: grey">(7eae858)</span></li>
<li>stage/part/stage.rc <span style="color: grey">(2dba463)</span></li>
<li>stage/stage.rc <span style="color: grey">(d0b912f)</span></li>
<li>words/part/author/author.rc <span style="color: grey">(14c5e91)</span></li>
<li>words/part/words.rc <span style="color: grey">(7ccbd34)</span></li>
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<p><a href="http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106650/diff/" style="margin-left: 3em;">View Diff</a></p>
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