before i joined this group there was some great hentai threads<br>but now i cant link back please tell me how to access content thank you<br>tommy<br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/28/09, <b class="gmail_sendername"><a href="mailto:amarok-request@kde.org">amarok-request@kde.org</a></b> <<a href="mailto:amarok-request@kde.org">amarok-request@kde.org</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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2. Re: [Feedback] What did you do with Amarok? (Leo Franchi)<br> <br> <br> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 1<br> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:30:49 -0500<br> From: "Oscar<Soker>" <<a href="mailto:sokerlp@gmail.com">sokerlp@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br> <br> well, we must accept the fact that if people is complaining that way about<br> amarok is because there is something wrong(or at least there was), you as<br>
developpers need to accept that you reallly made a mistake releasing amarok<br> as poor as the 2nd version was, I've been building amarok from the trunk<br> since the last two monts or even more and I can say that it has some really<br>
nice improvements, but do we really need a mini application looking for<br> artist photos??? I think we don't, it's nice to have that kind of stuffs but<br> is more important to have an equalizer instead, you might say that amarok is<br>
enveloped in a great framework and future releases will rock, but for a<br> simple user is just a kick in ... well you know where.<br> <br> Also the users of amarok (including me) need to stop complaining about every<br>
single feature that we missed in amarok2, if you want something new or<br> reimplemented on amarok then give ideas, fill bugs, and not just say,<br> ""hey!! i missed the old playlist and I hate you so much for taking away<br>
from amarok"" Help in amarok improvement, if you don't want to help, do<br> not have time or you just don't want to wait until your old loved amarok<br> functionallity is ready, then maybe amarok 2 is not for you<br>
<br> <br> P.S. When I say YOU, I mean "A quien le quede el saco"<br> <br> <br> <br> Atentamente Oscar:<br> <br> <br> <br> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Alejandro Wainzinger <<br> <a href="mailto:aikawarazuni@gmail.com">aikawarazuni@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Eric Altendorf<<a href="mailto:ericaltendorf@gmail.com">ericaltendorf@gmail.com</a>><br> > wrote:<br> > > Well, it would be nice if Amarok could play FLACs from the beginning.<br>
> > Like, really, the beginning.<br> > ><br> > > It would also be nice if it didn't consistently fail to read FLAC<br> > > metadata (possibly solved in recent versions I've tried)<br> > ><br>
> > It would be nice if having 200 compilation albums didn't litter the<br> > > artists list with 3000 random artists. (Finally solved, yay. Amarok<br> > > 2 was totally unusable before "Various Artists" came back.)<br>
> ><br> > > It would be nice if Amarok didn't try to create symlinks on vfat<br> > > filesystems on ipods when you try to sync them. Not only does Amarok<br> > > manage to corrupt the ipod, but in the process it throws up several<br>
> > thousand "Can't create symlink" dialog boxes. Useful.<br> ><br> > If by sync, you mean copy all of your local collection to the iPod,<br> > copying should not generate symlinks, and the copying is done by KIO<br>
> anyway, so I'm not sure what Amarok is doing wrong. I've never<br> > experienced this, and I haven't seen a bug report on it, but link me<br> > if I'm wrong, I'd like to take a look at it just in case.<br>
><br> > ><br> > > It would be nice if album art could be loaded at some size larger than<br> > > the miniscule default.<br> > ><br> > ><br> > > And yes, I have filed detailed bug reports for the more severe of these<br>
> issues.<br> > ><br> > > Overall, yeah, Amarok2 killed a lot of good features, provided no<br> > > valuable new features, and most of all, broke a lot of basic<br> > > functionality. The most recent versions I've picked up have be<br>
> > re-approaching the "usable" state, so I do have hope for Amarok2 some<br> > > day being good again, but man things have sucked really bad for a long<br> > > time.<br> ><br> > Generic speech is all very well and good for FUD, but could you<br>
> explain _which_ good features were "killed," which of the new features<br> > are not "valuable" and which basic functionality is broken? Also,<br> > what is required until you consider Amarok 2 "usable?"<br>
><br> > ><br> > ><br> > > --eric<br> > ><br> > ><br> > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Ian Monroe<<a href="mailto:ian.monroe@gmail.com">ian.monroe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Gary<br> > >> Steinert<<a href="http://gary.steinert.ml">gary.steinert.ml</a>@<a href="http://googlemail.com">googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > >>> On Monday 27 July 2009 01:25:06 <a href="mailto:mail@enricojoerns.de">mail@enricojoerns.de</a> wrote:<br>
> >>>> Enrico J?rns sent a message using the contact form at<br> > >>>> <a href="http://amarok.kde.org/en/contact">http://amarok.kde.org/en/contact</a>.<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> I just want to point out very quickly how dissapointed I am after<br>
> having<br> > >>>> used the 2nd generation of Amarok.<br> > >>>> How could you remove all the very good things that made Amarok to my<br> > >>>> veryvery favourite music player?<br>
> >>>><br> > >>>> I was nearly shocked how bad 2.1 is!<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> No possibilty to delete files out of playlist<br> > >>> This has been part of the playlist since 2.0 was released IIRC. Either<br>
> right<br> > >>> click -> Remove from Playlist or use the icon at the bottom of the<br> > playlist.<br> > >><br> > >> He means delete files.<br> > >><br> > >>>> No possibility to hide the contex window (heard fixed now!?)<br>
> >>>> No playlist shuffle option (or too much hided?)<br> > >>> Shuffle and repeat are under the Playlist menu. We're working on<br> > getting it into<br> > >>> the main window, but the playlist will need a bit of a rethink before<br>
> we will<br> > >>> be able to manage it without cluttering the screen too much.<br> > >><br> > >> Amarok 2.1 doesn't have a shuffle feature, though 2.2 will.<br> > >><br> > >>>> No more possibility to easy rename id3 in playlist for multiple<br>
> songs..<br> > >>> This is working at least in trunk. Never had call to test it before now<br> > so I<br> > >>> don't know what its like in 2.1<br> > >><br> > >> Well its certainly not as easy as in Amarok 1.4.<br>
> >><br> > >>>> Hardly any configuration for everything<br> > >>> Like what exactly? Because our audio is handled by phonon, a lot of the<br> > audio<br> > >>> settings have moved to the global KDE settings.<br>
> >><br> > >> And Amarok 2.2's whole layout will be configurable. :)<br> > >><br> > >>>> ...and many more of those little nice things that brought Amarok 1.4<br> > along!<br>
> >>> We have lost a few features, but we haven't taken anything out of<br> > Amarok<br> > >>> without careful consideration. There are features that we haven't been<br> > able to<br>
> >>> implement yet due to other restrictions. Like the graphic equaliser<br> > which,<br> > >>> until recently was not supported by phonon.<br> > >>><br> > >>> But if you take a look at 2.1, you'll find a great deal of new and<br>
> interesting<br> > >>> features, such as a big increase in the number of internet services<br> > that you<br> > >>> can access right from within Amarok. And a new, more powerful scripting<br>
> >>> interface that will allow a whole new array of scripts to be written.<br> > >>><br> > >>>><br> > >>>> So, sorry, but as long as I can, I will try to youse the old Amarok,<br>
> hope<br> > >>>> it will run in 4.0 too...<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> Please bring back life to Amarok! There are so many people who wish<br> > that!<br> > >>> Amarok is very much alive =) It's just evolved.<br>
> >><br> > >> I agree. :) Amarok 2.1 already has everything I need, outside of some<br> > >> regressions with the dynamic playlist which I'm working on now.<br> > >><br> > >> Ian<br>
> >> _______________________________________________<br> > >> Amarok mailing list<br> > >> <a href="mailto:Amarok@kde.org">Amarok@kde.org</a><br> > >> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/amarok">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/amarok</a><br>
> >><br> > > _______________________________________________<br> > > Amarok mailing list<br> > > <a href="mailto:Amarok@kde.org">Amarok@kde.org</a><br> > > <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/amarok">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/amarok</a><br>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br> <br> On Jul 28, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Oscar wrote:<br> <br> > well, we must accept the fact that if people is complaining that way<br> > about amarok is because there is something wrong(or at least there<br>
> was), you as developpers need to accept that you reallly made a<br> > mistake releasing amarok as poor as the 2nd version was, I've been<br> > building amarok from the trunk since the last two monts or even more<br>
> and I can say that it has some really nice improvements, but do we<br> > really need a mini application looking for artist photos??? I think<br> > we don't, it's nice to have that kind of stuffs but is more<br>
> important to have an equalizer instead, you might say that amarok is<br> > enveloped in a great framework and future releases will rock, but<br> > for a simple user is just a kick in ... well you know where.<br>
<br> You are inserting your own personal demands here and claiming that<br> they are more important than other people's wishes. (for example, i<br> couldn't care less about the lack of equalizer support. I actually use<br>
the photos applet a lot. does it mean it's more important? no. it just<br> reflects my personal opinion, as yours does. )<br> <br> i'm not going to go over what has been discussed endlessly about the<br> 2.0 release, how we're not packagers, etc. looking forward, amarok 2<br>
is become more and more powerful every week, and just by looking at<br> the difference between trunk today and 2.0 6.5 months ago, you can see<br> the leaps that are possible with the new codebase.<br> <br> leo<br> <br> ><br>
> Also the users of amarok (including me) need to stop complaining<br> > about every single feature that we missed in amarok2, if you want<br> > something new or reimplemented on amarok then give ideas, fill bugs,<br>
> and not just say, ""hey!! i missed the old playlist and I hate you<br> > so much for taking away from amarok"" Help in amarok improvement,<br> > if you don't want to help, do not have time or you just don't want<br>
> to wait until your old loved amarok functionallity is ready, then<br> > maybe amarok 2 is not for you<br> ><br> ><br> > P.S. When I say YOU, I mean "A quien le quede el saco"<br> ><br> ><br>
><br> > Atentamente Oscar:<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Alejandro Wainzinger <<a href="mailto:aikawarazuni@gmail.com">aikawarazuni@gmail.com</a><br> > > wrote:<br> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Eric Altendorf<<a href="mailto:ericaltendorf@gmail.com">ericaltendorf@gmail.com</a><br>
> > wrote:<br> > > Well, it would be nice if Amarok could play FLACs from the<br> > beginning.<br> > > Like, really, the beginning.<br> > ><br> > > It would also be nice if it didn't consistently fail to read FLAC<br>
> > metadata (possibly solved in recent versions I've tried)<br> > ><br> > > It would be nice if having 200 compilation albums didn't litter the<br> > > artists list with 3000 random artists. (Finally solved, yay.<br>
> Amarok<br> > > 2 was totally unusable before "Various Artists" came back.)<br> > ><br> > > It would be nice if Amarok didn't try to create symlinks on vfat<br> > > filesystems on ipods when you try to sync them. Not only does<br>
> Amarok<br> > > manage to corrupt the ipod, but in the process it throws up several<br> > > thousand "Can't create symlink" dialog boxes. Useful.<br> ><br> > If by sync, you mean copy all of your local collection to the iPod,<br>
> copying should not generate symlinks, and the copying is done by KIO<br> > anyway, so I'm not sure what Amarok is doing wrong. I've never<br> > experienced this, and I haven't seen a bug report on it, but link me<br>
> if I'm wrong, I'd like to take a look at it just in case.<br> ><br> > ><br> > > It would be nice if album art could be loaded at some size larger<br> > than<br> > > the miniscule default.<br>
> ><br> > ><br> > > And yes, I have filed detailed bug reports for the more severe of<br> > these issues.<br> > ><br> > > Overall, yeah, Amarok2 killed a lot of good features, provided no<br>
> > valuable new features, and most of all, broke a lot of basic<br> > > functionality. The most recent versions I've picked up have be<br> > > re-approaching the "usable" state, so I do have hope for Amarok2<br>
> some<br> > > day being good again, but man things have sucked really bad for a<br> > long<br> > > time.<br> ><br> > Generic speech is all very well and good for FUD, but could you<br> > explain _which_ good features were "killed," which of the new features<br>
> are not "valuable" and which basic functionality is broken? Also,<br> > what is required until you consider Amarok 2 "usable?"<br> ><br> > ><br> > ><br> > > --eric<br> > ><br>
> ><br> > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Ian Monroe<<a href="mailto:ian.monroe@gmail.com">ian.monroe@gmail.com</a>><br> > wrote:<br> > >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Gary<br> > >> Steinert<<a href="http://gary.steinert.ml">gary.steinert.ml</a>@<a href="http://googlemail.com">googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>> On Monday 27 July 2009 01:25:06 <a href="mailto:mail@enricojoerns.de">mail@enricojoerns.de</a> wrote:<br> > >>>> Enrico J?rns sent a message using the contact form at<br> > >>>> <a href="http://amarok.kde.org/en/contact">http://amarok.kde.org/en/contact</a>.<br>
> >>>><br> > >>>> I just want to point out very quickly how dissapointed I am<br> > after having<br> > >>>> used the 2nd generation of Amarok.<br> > >>>> How could you remove all the very good things that made Amarok<br>
> to my<br> > >>>> veryvery favourite music player?<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> I was nearly shocked how bad 2.1 is!<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> No possibilty to delete files out of playlist<br>
> >>> This has been part of the playlist since 2.0 was released IIRC.<br> > Either right<br> > >>> click -> Remove from Playlist or use the icon at the bottom of<br> > the playlist.<br> > >><br>
> >> He means delete files.<br> > >><br> > >>>> No possibility to hide the contex window (heard fixed now!?)<br> > >>>> No playlist shuffle option (or too much hided?)<br> > >>> Shuffle and repeat are under the Playlist menu. We're working on<br>
> getting it into<br> > >>> the main window, but the playlist will need a bit of a rethink<br> > before we will<br> > >>> be able to manage it without cluttering the screen too much.<br> > >><br>
> >> Amarok 2.1 doesn't have a shuffle feature, though 2.2 will.<br> > >><br> > >>>> No more possibility to easy rename id3 in playlist for multiple<br> > songs..<br> > >>> This is working at least in trunk. Never had call to test it<br>
> before now so I<br> > >>> don't know what its like in 2.1<br> > >><br> > >> Well its certainly not as easy as in Amarok 1.4.<br> > >><br> > >>>> Hardly any configuration for everything<br>
> >>> Like what exactly? Because our audio is handled by phonon, a lot<br> > of the audio<br> > >>> settings have moved to the global KDE settings.<br> > >><br> > >> And Amarok 2.2's whole layout will be configurable. :)<br>
> >><br> > >>>> ...and many more of those little nice things that brought<br> > Amarok 1.4 along!<br> > >>> We have lost a few features, but we haven't taken anything out<br> > of Amarok<br>
> >>> without careful consideration. There are features that we<br> > haven't been able to<br> > >>> implement yet due to other restrictions. Like the graphic<br> > equaliser which,<br> > >>> until recently was not supported by phonon.<br>
> >>><br> > >>> But if you take a look at 2.1, you'll find a great deal of new<br> > and interesting<br> > >>> features, such as a big increase in the number of internet<br> > services that you<br>
> >>> can access right from within Amarok. And a new, more powerful<br> > scripting<br> > >>> interface that will allow a whole new array of scripts to be<br> > written.<br> > >>><br>
> >>>><br> > >>>> So, sorry, but as long as I can, I will try to youse the old<br> > Amarok, hope<br> > >>>> it will run in 4.0 too...<br> > >>>><br> > >>>> Please bring back life to Amarok! There are so many people who<br>
> wish that!<br> > >>> Amarok is very much alive =) It's just evolved.<br> > >><br> > >> I agree. :) Amarok 2.1 already has everything I need, outside of<br> > some<br> > >> regressions with the dynamic playlist which I'm working on now.<br>
> >><br> > >> Ian<br> > >> _______________________________________________<br> > >> Amarok mailing list<br> > >> <a href="mailto:Amarok@kde.org">Amarok@kde.org</a><br> > >> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/amarok">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/amarok</a><br>
> >><br> > > _______________________________________________<br> > > Amarok mailing list<br> > > <a href="mailto:Amarok@kde.org">Amarok@kde.org</a><br> > > <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/amarok">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/amarok</a><br>
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