Various Artists in Amarok 2.0

[Jan Holthuis]

At the moment I suppose Amarok2 should stick with the
Amarok 1.4.10-way of handling compilations. I have to agree
with Stuart: My collection browser is way to full as long as collections
are not grouped under »Various Artists«. Just to remind you: If you do
not like that grouping, you can still select »Do not show under Various
Artists«. In that case, the compilation will be split up and shown under
every single artist.

Related to you second point:
I believe the problem of »auto-recongnizing compilations« is that there may also be diffent albums by
different artist that have the same name (e.g. »Greatest Hits«). How to
distinct between compilations and these albums?

On Dienstag 16 Dezember 2008 03:19:50 Jud Craft wrote:
> Ah, crafty.  (HA!)  I didn't notice the sane/crazy thing myself.
> 
> I agree with most of your analyses; you are right that I am merely
> positing use cases that stand in juxtaposition to your own.
> 
> I will make the following notes:
> 
> 1.  I really have no problems with context-sensitive album grouping
> like Compilations, and I really like your ideas for Amarok to be aware
> of Single Artist Compilations, Collaborations, and stuff like that.
> That's cool.
> 
> My only beef is that I don't want such context-sensitive grouping
> interfering with a specific listing metaphor.  If I list by Artist, I
> want to list by Artist, darn it.  (You are right; I can appreciate the
> organizational merit of grouping by Various Artists and such like, but
> I don't like that for default Sort by Artist behavior).  Perhaps the
> default Amarok sort (with compilations pre-groups) could just be given
> a different name; I'd just really appreciate being able to actually do
> List by Artist on its own, that's all.
> 
> 2.  For this one I must quote myself.
> 
> > At the very least, the problem with Amarok 1.4 should be fixed:  for
> > albums which are not marked as compilations (whether intentionally or
> > by accident), Amarok should still group those songs on the album when
> > the artists are separate (as opposed to failing to do so).  It should
> > stop making a distinction between "Albums by Artist X" and "Albums
> > that have Artist X", and merely use "Albums with Artist X".
> 
> I think this is actually something you'd agree with here, if I said it
> less verbosely:  essentially, I mean that Amarok should ALWAYS
> recognize a compilation album, even if you forget to flag it as such.
> After all, it should be relatively elementary to tell there's more
> than one artist on this album; Amarok should be able to recognize it
> no matter what.
> 
> Under Amarok 1.4, if you forget to flag a compilation album and then
> play a track, watch the Context Sidebar:  Amarok pretends to have on
> clue what's on the rest of that album.  I think it's pretty obvious
> what's on that album (since those songs are tagged with the right
> album anyway), and Amarok should be able to figure it out, whether you
> specify "List under Various Artists" or not.
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