regression of Media Devices fix

Andrew Turner andrewturner512 at googlemail.com
Tue Sep 19 09:51:21 UTC 2006


Jeff,

What maxx_k was claiming was that it checked the device name, which is
pretty much stuck as being /dev/hda4. I tried changing the mount point
- Dynamic Collection did its thing instantly, but it still wasn't
listed as a Media Device. This agrees with what maxx_k said.

So, I wouldn't worry.

Andrew


On 18/09/06, Jeff Mitchell <kde-dev at emailgoeshere.com> wrote:
> So then it should work if you access it via, for instance, /mnt/vfat?
>
> --Jeff
>
> Quoting Andrew Turner <andrewturner512 at googlemail.com>:
>
> > Jeff,
> >
> > Maxx_k informs me my device is probably not showing because it is
> > /dev/hd* (it's just a VFAT partition I use for testing, really), and
> > there was a commit to hide those devices from the Media Device system.
> >
> > So, everything is probably ok. Sorry for the scare :)
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > On 17/09/06, Jeff Mitchell <kde-dev at emailgoeshere.com> wrote:
> >> UGH.  I won't have time to look at this anytime soon...I'll have a ton
> >> to catch up on when I get back to work in two days.  Feel free to try
> >> to figure it out if you can...
> >>
> >> --Jeff
> >>
> >> Quoting Andrew Turner <andrewturner512 at googlemail.com>:
> >>
> >> > Jeff,
> >> >
> >> > This reminded me:
> >> > I noticed recently that the fix for non-KDE users using Media Devices
> >> > has regressed again. Nothing shows up for me again in the Media
> >> > Devices configuration screen, even after pressing Autodetect Devices.
> >> >
> >> > Sorry for the hijack.
> >> >
> >> > Andrew
> >> >
> >> > On 17/09/06, Jeff Mitchell <kde-dev at emailgoeshere.com> wrote:
> >> >> Max--
> >> >>
> >> >> I ran into this problem when dealing with media devices.  I'd look at
> >> >> MediaBrowser and DeviceManager code (and other related code, like
> >> >> possibly MediumPluginManager) for what was done to fix it.
> >> >> Essentially, it iterates through the list of mediums returned by the
> >> >> DCOP call and called mediumAdded normally.  You have to be careful
> >> >> though because there needs to be a delay for people not running KDE as
> >> >> their desktop (4 seconds or so should be enough) to get kdeinit and
> >> >> dcop up and running.  You may want to put code to fix it in the same
> >> >> place as the code that helps DeviceManager.
> >> >>
> >> >> --Jeff
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Quoting Maximilian Kossick <maximilian.kossick at googlemail.com>:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hi
> >> >> > Ian forwarded me your e-mail conversation because i'm the main
> >> >> > developer of the code which is affected.
> >> >> > The problem in Amarok is described in this bug report:
> >> >> > http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134153
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Amarok's new Dynamic Collection feature uses MediaManager to keep
> >> >> > track of mounted partitions and network shares. The problem is that
> >> >> > MediaManager emits the mediumRemoved DCOp signal for each medium when
> >> >> > it is removed. On the other hand, it does not emit mediumAdded when it
> >> >> > is started. What happens is that Amarok hides (usually) the complete
> >> >> > collection because it thinks that no mediums are mounted anymore, and
> >> >> > does not unhide them when MediaManager is started again.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Fixing MediaManager is obviously the best solution. Do you already
> >> >> > have a patch, or is there already a bug report? Alternatively, we
> >> >> > could implement a workaround as outlined in the above bug report.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cheers,
> >> >> > Max
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On 9/17/06, Ian Monroe <ian at monroe.nu> wrote:
> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> >> >> From: Sebastian Trüg <trueg at k3b.org>
> >> >> >> Date: Sep 11, 2006 6:51 AM
> >> >> >> Subject: Re: stopping mediamanager?
> >> >> >> To: Ian Monroe <ian at monroe.nu>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> it does. because the mediamanager pings each drive from time to
> >> >> >> time which may
> >> >> >> break especially DVD+RW burning. Amarok is not the only one
> >> >> having problems
> >> >> >> with this. There are at least two more problems in KDE (one of
> >> >> >> which is fixed
> >> >> >> in svn):
> >> >> >> 1. the medianotifier is not properly unconnected which
> >> results in two new
> >> >> >> media dialogs after a k3b run
> >> >> >> 2. each media mounted by the mediamanager is unmounted when it
> >> >> is shut down
> >> >> >> (imagine you want to burn stuff from a cd or dvd)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> What exactly is the problem in amarok? Maybe we can convince the
> >> >> >> mediamanager
> >> >> >> maintainer to accept a patch for a disable or blockDevice dcop
> >> >> call for KDE
> >> >> >> 3.5.5...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> >> Sebastian
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Monday 11 September 2006 01:31, you wrote:
> >> >> >> > There is a rumor that K3B stops the mediamanager service. Is this
> >> >> >> > true? This would seriously screw things up for us with Amarok.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >> > Ian Monroe
> >> >> >> > Amarok Developer
> >> >> >>
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