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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=DE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>could we also add the devices that are known to work with PA on Mer to<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Devices">http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Devices</a> ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This is the place people should be looking if they want to know whether PA will work on their device.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thomas<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> active-bounces@kde.org [mailto:active-bounces@kde.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Karlheinz Hohm<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 02, 2011 10:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> Carl Symons; martin brook<br><b>Cc:</b> Active mail list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: info needed for Plasma Active Two release announcements<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>most of the links for the tablet devices are already also in the wiki <a href="http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Installation" target="_blank">http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Installation</a> in the respective sections.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Karlheinz.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='margin-top:3.75pt;margin-bottom:3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><br><span lang=EN-US>On December 2, 2011 at 7:00 PM martin brook <</span><a href="mailto:martin.brook100@googlemail.com"><span lang=EN-US>martin.brook100@googlemail.com</span></a><span lang=EN-US>> wrote:<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Carl, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Is the information you sent documented somewhere? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>You are welcome to link to the information/documentation where you think fit but remember this is developer stuff at the moment and all linked from the Mer wiki and my blog. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have a couple of videos to link as well :) Some have been reported by a few sites but its difficult to get wider coverage as a lone developer so would welcome the exposure you plan. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xFbWDXTqLk">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xFbWDXTqLk</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wj7FBtHFFM">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wj7FBtHFFM</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEjLMYXxN9Y">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEjLMYXxN9Y</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://martinbrook.blogspot.com/2011/11/mer-since-demise-of-meego-group-of.html">http://martinbrook.blogspot.com/2011/11/mer-since-demise-of-meego-group-of.html</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>BR <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>vgrade <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Carl Symons <<a href="mailto:carlsymons@gmail.com">carlsymons@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hello Martin,<br><br>Is the information you sent documented somewhere accessible by<br>potential users and interested bystanders? If not, we--the team--need<br>to put structures in place so that information is shared easily and<br>widely.<br><br>Of course I'm interested in technical details as a kiddie mad<br>scientist (I don't code, but I delight in demoing Plasma, especially<br>PA on the ExoPC). But my main interest is in getting visibility for<br>Mer, Plasma Active, KDE, basysKom, open-slx, all developers, FOSS,<br>community, goodness & light. People's hard work and good software need<br>exposure to realize more potential.<br><br>In addition to developing the technology, there's also a need also to<br>pay attention outside of technical boundaries. And this requires<br>planning too. This is almost a User Experience challenge at the level<br>of the whole product...not just how Contour works, but how all the<br>pieces fit together that are associated with FOSS-on-mobile-devices.<br><br>The work that y'all are doing is amazing. I can hardly wait for PA2<br>and for somebody to present at the local LUG, demonstrating replacing<br>Ice Cream Sandwich on their Samsung Galaxy Nexus with Mer and Plasma.<br><span style='color:#888888'><br><span class=hoenzb>Carl</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 8:45 AM, martin brook<br><<a href="mailto:martin.brook100@googlemail.com">martin.brook100@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Hi,<br>><br>> Carl, good to see so much interest.<br>><br>> I've been working on porting Plasm Active to Advent Vega (Tegra2), Nokia<br>> N950, trimslice and lately G9 with an unlocked device from Archos in my<br>> spare time.<br>><br>> There are instructions and images for N950 and Trimslice at<br>><br>> <a href="http://images.formeego.org/trimslice/" target="_blank">http://images.formeego.org/trimslice/</a><br>> <a href="http://images.formeego.org/n950/plasma-active/" target="_blank">http://images.formeego.org/n950/plasma-active/</a><br>><br>> Instructions and images for Advent Vega and point of view Tegra 2 tablet at<br>><br>> <a href="http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/latest-basyskom-plasma-active-tegra2-mer.html" target="_blank">http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/latest-basyskom-plasma-active-tegra2-mer.html</a><br>> <a href="http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_arm_install_archive/point_of_view_nvidia_tegra2/readme.txt" target="_blank">http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_arm_install_archive/point_of_view_nvidia_tegra2/readme.txt</a><br>> <a href="http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_arm_install_archive/point_of_view_nvidia_tegra2/" target="_blank">http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_arm_install_archive/point_of_view_nvidia_tegra2/</a><br>><br>> G9 Images and kernel can be found here, although you will need an onlocked<br>> bootloader which I understand will ba avaiable in the next few days.<br>><br>> <a href="http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_arm_install_archive/archos-generation-9/" target="_blank">http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_arm_install_archive/archos-generation-9/</a><br>> <a href="https://www.gitorious.org/archos-gen9-mer-adaptation-kernel" target="_blank">https://www.gitorious.org/archos-gen9-mer-adaptation-kernel</a><br>><br>> There has been a number of large changes in the architecture of some of<br>> these pieces the biggest for me is the move away from MeeGo as the core to<br>> Mer. <a href="http://www.merproject.org/" target="_blank">http://www.merproject.org/</a> These changes have meant that keeping up<br>> with the latest baseline on these pieces of hardware is a large task.<br>><br>> These ports are very young and are not production quality so any help is<br>> welcome.<br>><br>> You can find me and the guys on #Mer and #active on Freenode IRC and more<br>> information on the Mer community<br>> wikipages, <a href="http://wiki.merproject.com/wiki/Community_Workspace" target="_blank">http://wiki.merproject.com/wiki/Community_Workspace</a><br>><br>> I suggest that once PA2 hits a stable RC point (please let me know) that we<br>> make images for each of the devices listed above and if you have a device<br>> spare let me know I'm always on the lookout for potential Mer/Plasma Active<br>> targets.<br>><br>> BR<br>><br>> vgrade (mad scientist)<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Carl Symons <<a href="mailto:carlsymons@gmail.com">carlsymons@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Aaron J. Seigo <<a href="mailto:aseigo@kde.org">aseigo@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br>>> > hi...<br>>> ><br>>> > we are tentatively going with the following three messages for the<br>>> > release<br>>> > announcement around PA2:<br>>> ><br>>> > * Improved usability<br>>> > * enhanced touch functionality in contour<br>>> > * improvements to web browsing<br>>> > * settings app<br>>> > * consistent interface for adding things to activities<br>>> > * bug fixing (bugzilla says 92 issues closed so far, with 48<br>>> > open)<br>>> ><br>>> > * Performance improvements<br>>> > * improvements in keyboard<br>>> > * faster listings of applications<br>>> ><br>>> > * Recommendations<br>>> ><br>>> > it will wrap up with an overview of availability, which will highlight<br>>> > the<br>>> > working partnership with Mer and the availability of Plasma Active on<br>>> > the<br>>> > various devices that it has been brought up on (archos, tegra2, etc..).<br>>> > the<br>>> > expansion of availability between PA1 and PA2 will be highlighted.<br>>> ><br>>> > final para will be an invitation for participation and a hint that PA3<br>>> > will be<br>>> > a more feature-focused release.<br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> > so .. what i need from all of you is this:<br>>> ><br>>> > lists and details of changes in PA2 that fit in the above 3 topics. e.g.<br>>> > "what<br>>> > has changed, exactly, in the web browser?", "what are the most<br>>> > significant<br>>> > fixes?", "what kind of numbers do we have for the faster, model-based<br>>> > listings?"<br>>> ><br>>> > also please feel free to add new subtopics. i only listed two items<br>>> > under<br>>> > performance improvements, though i know there are more than that ;)<br>>> ><br>>> > bullet point lists are good enough. i don't need full<br>>> > sentences/paragraphs<br>>> > (though those are also welcome ;) as i'll be putting this together into<br>>> > a<br>>> > coherent text next week.<br>>> ><br>>> > which means i need this info by next week ;) ... tuesday at the latest<br>>> > please!<br>>> ><br>>> > --<br>>> > Aaron J. Seigo<br>>><br>>> I have gotten several requests from people wanting to install Plasma<br>>> Active on their tablets. There are two camps:<br>>> * devices currently running PA. I got a message today from someone who<br>>> wants PA on their ARCHOS G9 tablet (publicized a day or two ago).<br>>> People are hungry for notiOS and notAndroid. Plus they want real open<br>>> source and experimental cool stuff without having to start from zero.<br>>><br>>> * devices that resemble working installations...ARM<br>>><br>>> It would be useful to building traffic and awareness to have<br>>> information to support both. Acknowledging the possibility of<br>>> problems, including bricking...there can be warnings, fallback<br>>> strategies, whatever else is necessary to support the mad scientists.<br>>> Perhaps the more outlandish installation possibilities could be<br>>> treated through a more informal website/wiki.<br>>><br>>> This will take knowledgeable developer input, as well as purposeful<br>>> coordination between the various installation suggestions, wikis and<br>>> forums. It could (will) be messy, but the outcomes are<br>>> valuable...potential new developers, more people, devices, traffic,<br>>> publicity, applications.<br>>><br>>> This all fits with "invitation for participation", and serves to lower<br>>> the technical bar for involvement.<br>>><br>>> Carl<br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Active mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:Active@kde.org">Active@kde.org</a><br>>> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/active" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/active</a><br>><br>> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>